I cant open linux(Fedora 13) with my new Digital flat panel(1024*768)..?pls help..

bioinfo123 · 04-16-2011, 11:18 AM

I just changing my monitor to Digital flat panel with resolution(1024*768)...but when i open linux..it gives password screen but cant show any menu on desktop...
I just wondering..is this problem regarding my monitor..or i have to change any settings of linux..
but in linux i even cant open terminal...
Then How to work?..
My exam starts and i have to use linux...so Pls give feedback if u have any information regarding this...
Linux is properly working on my old monitor(Aser:Model no-1551).
It also work nice in windows...

MTK358 · 04-16-2011, 01:00 PM

What's the "menu"?

And what do you mean by "digital" flat panel?

bioinfo123 · 04-20-2011, 09:53 PM

There is no menu...
I have dual operating system..so when i open linux,it gives only desktop background...
But one wondering thing is that i can make file by mouse right click options but cant open it...
Digital flat panel is my new moniter device type you may say it only flat panel also.....

MTK358 · 04-21-2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bioinfo123

There is no menu...

I meant "what kind of menu did you expect to see?". Perhaps you mean the panel?

And more importantly, what distribution and desktop environment are you using?

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Originally Posted by bioinfo123

But one wondering thing is that i can make file by mouse right click options but cant open it...

So a menu comes up when you right-click? What kind of items are in that menu?

And by "i can make file by mouse right click options but cant open it..." do you mean that you can create a file on the desktop by clicking on the "create file" menu item, but double-clicking it does nothing?

Another thing to try would be to press Alt+F2. If a launcher comes up, type "xterm" in it and launch it. A terminal should come up. If that works, I might be able to offer more suggestions to try.

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Originally Posted by bioinfo123

Digital flat panel is my new moniter device type you may say it only flat panel also.....

Is it an LCD?

bioinfo123 · 04-22-2011, 12:45 PM

I clearly don't know which desktop environment is but i think it should be GENOME or KDE.
I dont know how to check it..i have not changed it so all settings is default normally found in fedora 13.

And yes i want panels...and also desktop with my all folders and files...

Yes, i can create a file on the desktop by clicking on the "create file" menu item, but double-clicking it does nothing?
On right clicking normal menu of make or create file or folder..etc..is found.

On pressing Alt+F2, launcher cames up, typeing "xterm" in it and it launched. A terminal also came up.pls give sugessions...

and yes it is LCD.

MTK358 · 04-22-2011, 02:03 PM

First of all, use the quote feature. How do you think it's possible to tell what you wrote and what others did?

Post the output of the commands: "which gnome-session", "which startkde", "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and "xrandr" (type the commands without the quotes).

You might be able to launch a web browser from that terminal by running the command "firefox &". That would make it easier to post the output. Note that the normal Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V won't work in a terminal. What you should do is just select the text and then click the middle button (press the wheel (don't roll it) on a wheel mouse, or click both buttons at once on a 2-button mouse) to paste. Not key shortcuts or menus.

Hevithan · 04-22-2011, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK358

Note that the normal Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V won't work in a terminal. What you should do is just select the text and then click the middle button (press the wheel (don't roll it) on a wheel mouse, or click both buttons at once on a 2-button mouse) to paste. Not key shortcuts or menus.

I'm using a debian based system, and Shift-ctrl-C and V, are my copy/paste while I am in Terminal... maybe fedora is differant? or are you saying it is bad practice in general to use the key shortcuts?

Sorry for the sudden subject change, this just arose my curiosity .

MTK358 · 04-22-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hevithan

I'm using a debian based system, and Shift-ctrl-C and V, are my copy/paste while I am in Terminal... maybe fedora is differant? or are you saying it is bad practice in general to use the key shortcuts?

Sorry for the sudden subject change, this just arose my curiosity .

xterm, the terminal application I told the OP to use (it comes with X no matter what desktop you use, since the OP doesn't know what desktop he has) is very old and came from a time where most modern GUI conventions didn't exist.

Also, Unix terminals used Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V for other purposes way before GUIs or the Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V copy/paste convention existed.

bioinfo123 · 04-23-2011, 08:37 AM

Quote:

First of all, use the quote feature. How do you think it's possible to tell what you wrote and what others did?

Post the output of the commands: "which gnome-session", "which startkde", "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and "xrandr" (type the commands without the quotes).

You might be able to launch a web browser from that terminal by running the command "firefox &". That would make it easier to post the output. Note that the normal Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V won't work in a terminal. What you should do is just select the text and then click the middle button (press the wheel (don't roll it) on a wheel mouse, or click both buttons at once on a 2-button mouse) to paste. Not key shortcuts or menus.

I cant copy output.But i have screenshot of output.how can i show to u?
one other thing is that in screenshot lefthand side my original desktop is present as it is.Isn't is wondering???.it may mean that screen transfers to the lefthandside.May be due to resolution change.
no one above mensioned comand work properly except xrandr.
In which i found various resolutions current is 2390*768.It may useful.
I can open firefox using command but it disappears on just single clicking.
Pls reply me fast.i have exam on day after tomorrow.You can mail me also.

jschiwal · 04-23-2011, 09:48 AM

What is the native resolution of your LCD monitor. 1024*768 sounds too small. It's my guess that you have a bar on the bottom of the screen, but it is located below the screen.

What is the make and model of your LCD monitor?
What video card or device do you have? Nvidia, ATI, Intel or something else?

Run "xrandr" to see which sizes are possible.

Code:

 xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1440 x 900, maximum 1440 x 900
default connected 1440x900+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1440x900       50.0* 
   1024x768       51.0     52.0     53.0     54.0     55.0  
   832x624        56.0  
   800x600        57.0     58.0     59.0     60.0     61.0     62.0     63.0     64.0  
   720x400        65.0  
   700x525        66.0     67.0  
   640x512        68.0     69.0     70.0  
   640x480        71.0     72.0     73.0     74.0     75.0     76.0  
   640x400        77.0  
   640x350        78.0  
   576x432        79.0  
   512x384        80.0     81.0     82.0     83.0     84.0  
   416x312        85.0  
   400x300        86.0     87.0     88.0     89.0     90.0  
   360x200        91.0  
   320x240        92.0     93.0     94.0     95.0  
   320x200        96.0  
   320x175        97.0

This says I am using 1440x900. To switch to 1024x768, you can run "xrandr --size 1024x768". You can press CTRL-F2, and enter the command in that run dialog.

MTK358 · 04-23-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bioinfo123

I cant copy output.But i have screenshot of output.how can i show to u?
one other thing is that in screenshot lefthand side my original desktop is present as it is.Isn't is wondering???.it may mean that screen transfers to the lefthandside.May be due to resolution change.
no one above mensioned comand work properly except xrandr.
In which i found various resolutions current is 2390*768.It may useful.
I can open firefox using command but it disappears on just single clicking.
Pls reply me fast.i have exam on day after tomorrow.You can mail me also.on 123helpfriends@gmail.com

Post a screenshot as an attachemnt. Also, I want to see the way you typed the commands in the screenshots. Maybe they failed becasue you mistyped them (although I actually meant some of them to fail depending on how your system is set up).

Also, if possible, quit using texting speak and capitalize your sentences. It's not much more effort but it makes things much easier to read.

And finally, what's the purpose of the email address? It has many disadvantages: not many people can help, nobody can learn from it afterwards, it's not any faster, and posting your email address is just asking for spambots to find it.

bioinfo123 · 04-23-2011, 06:45 PM

Here is some information regarding system i have found:Kernal 2.6.33.3-85.fcl3.i686.PAE
-GNOME 2.30.0

Below commands are i was used on my old monitor inwhich linux is properly working.It may helpful to show you linux settings on old monitor.
[student@gandhi /]$ which genome-session
/usr/bin/which: no genome-session in (/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/phylip-3.69/exe:/usr/local/clustalw-2.0.10-linux-i386-libcppstatic:/usr/local/arb-build/arbsrc_6779)

[student@gandhi /]$ which starkde
/usr/bin/which: no starkde in (/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/phylip-3.69/exe:/usr/local/clustalw-2.0.10-linux-i386-libcppstatic:/usr/local/arb-build/arbsrc_6779)

[student@gandhi /]$ cat/etc/x11/xorg.conf
bash: cat/etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[student@gandhi /]$ cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf
cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory

[student@gandhi /]$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
LVDS1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 60.0*+ 60.0
800x600 60.3 56.2
640x480 59.9
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
1024x768 60.0*
800x600 60.3 56.2
848x480 60.0
640x480 59.9
TV1 unknown connection (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
1024x768 60.0
800x600 60.3
640x480 59.9

Here is the screebshot i have taken.
This Screenshot is of linux in LCD.

jschiwal · 04-24-2011, 01:10 AM

From your screen shot, I think your desktop is spread across two monitors. I don't know which one is on the left in the screen shot, but that one does have the menu bar. What happens if you disconnect the VGA monitor.

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Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
LVDS1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm

It looks like the LCD monitor can handle higher resolutions from the maximum screen size given, but that may be taking into account the maximum lines on the VGA monitor. Seeing the results after disconnecting the VGA monitor may provide more information about what resolutions are possible. Also look at the Xorg.0.log file for possible resolutions detected.

Quote:

[student@gandhi /]$ cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf
cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory

This is OK. There may be config files in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.d/. Xorg now uses HAL to make make settings itself. But if you use a tool that creates an xorg.conf file, it will be used instead.

bioinfo123 · 04-24-2011, 04:36 AM

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From your screen shot, I think your desktop is spread across two monitors. I don't know which one is on the left in the screen shot, but that one does have the menu bar. What happens if you disconnect the VGA monitor.

Leftide contains original screen.
And what do you mean by VGA monitor.Are you toking about LCD.

MTK358 · 04-24-2011, 08:15 AM

Please use [code] tags instead of colors. You mistyped all but 1 of the commands. They should be typed exactly the same TO THE LETTER, and case and spacing matters.

Below commands are i was used on my old monitor inwhich linux is properly working.It may helpful to show you linux settings on old monitor.

Quote:

[student@gandhi /]$ which genome-session
/usr/bin/which: no genome-session in (/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/phylip-3.69/exe:/usr/local/clustalw-2.0.10-linux-i386-libcppstatic:/usr/local/arb-build/arbsrc_6779)

It's gnome-session (no "e" after the "g", as in "lawn gnome"), not genome-session (as in "human genome").

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[student@gandhi /]$ which starkde
/usr/bin/which: no starkde in (/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/arb-install/bin:/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/student/bin:/usr/local/phylip-3.69/exe:/usr/local/clustalw-2.0.10-linux-i386-libcppstatic:/usr/local/arb-build/arbsrc_6779)

It's startkde, not starkde.

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[student@gandhi /]$ cat/etc/x11/xorg.conf
bash: cat/etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[student@gandhi /]$ cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf
cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory

There has to be a space between "cat" and the path. Also, the error is becasue you typed "x11", not "X11". Linux is case-sensitive.