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Old 02-14-2014, 09:52 AM   #31
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Yep. The Broadcom is a internal wireless pci card.

Quote:
02:02.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN [103c:1356]
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
Kernel modules: ssb
It is also using the b43 driver but broadcom firmware sometimes needs to be installed for things to work and sometimes a different broadcom drivers like "wl" . Broadcom works but can be a pain to set up also in Linux. They have gotten better though with cooperating a little more with Gnu/Linux. No driver source code from them yet though. Moving on.

Quote:
I had a look at the BIOS and found under "Device Options"
there is an entry called "Embedded WLAN Device Radio" Enabled
is this where I should change to Disable?
do you think is this for the internal wireless card?
Yep. Disable it. You are not going to be using it and it can create a conflict with
2 wireless chips competing to connect to wireless network and then nothing works.
PLUS, I am guessing, you want wireless N speeds and the Broadcom is only capapble of Wireless G speeds.

Back when I ran Ubuntu and now when I am on my Mint Laptop.

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sudo su
gets me into root. I am not on my Mint laptop now. I am in my motorcycle shop opening it for the day on my AntiX media center wireless Desktop computer and will post back later on my Mint Laptop.

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Old 02-14-2014, 10:10 AM   #32
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Err, Just a note. I'd be careful on downloading firmware yet until we are sure what the heck version your operating system is based on.

anyways on mine it is is

Code:
biker:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
jessie/sid
biker:~$ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
ID=debian
ANSI_COLOR="1;31"
HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/"

I'm not sure how zorin does it. One can find out though with

Code:
cd /etc
hit enter/return key

the in terminal again

Code:
ls
which will list everything in the /etc directory to find how Zorin does what I just showed.
Then the cat command with, /etc/whatever zorin calls it goes here, will show what Ubuntu version Zorin is based on. Then the thread can go from there. No kernel has been shown either yet also. Uname comes in handy for that also as well as distro release.

Code:
man uname
reveals what uname is capable of

Edit: Ok. Booted up my Mint install laptop.

Code:
 $ sudo su
[sudo] password : 
biker#
sudo should suffice though instead of using root.

Code:
@biker ~ $ uname -a
Linux biker 3.12.0-7-exton #15 SMP Mon Dec 9 10:23:02 CET 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
@biker ~ $ uname -o
GNU/Linux
@biker ~ $ uname -m
x86_64
@biker ~ $ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="12.10, Quantal Quetzal"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu quantal (12.10)"
VERSION_ID="12.10"
@biker ~ $ cat /etc/issue
Linux Mint 14 Nadia \n \l
@biker ~ $ inxi -M
Machine:   Mobo: SAMSUNG model: RV410/RV510/S3510/E3510 Bios: Phoenix version: 02UC.P026.20100916.LX date: 09/16/2010

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Old 02-14-2014, 07:40 PM   #33
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I'd be careful on downloading firmware yet until we are sure what the heck version your operating system is based on.
I agree with you rokytnji-

According to distrowatch Zorin OS is Debian & Ubuntu based.
I just don't know if OP distro is using "squeeze" or the new Debian release "wheezy".
And as for Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin is supported till April.2014, Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander, and Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail. I (think) 13.10 is the current release.

Running uname -r should help us to find out what version of Ubuntu is running (show kernel release)
 
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I re-read Post # 13; found the kernel OP is running-
Code:
uname -r
3.2.0-37-generic
I'm running Voyager which is Xubuntu & Ubuntu based a recent upgrade brought me to:
Kernel 3.2.0-54 generic (if that helps)
 
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Originally Posted by Ztcoracat View Post
I re-read Post # 13; found the kernel OP is running-
Code:
uname -r
3.2.0-37-generic
I'm running Voyager which is Xubuntu & Ubuntu based a recent upgrade brought me to:
Kernel 3.2.0-54 generic (if that helps)
Well. Without a cat /etc/os-release readout. My best guess is he might be able to use the wheezy install method. But I would not bet the ranch on that.

These spinoff distros are Ubuntu based usually. Which is a totally different animal than Debian.

Since some spinoffs may be based on Debian unstable. Not enough info from the OP yet for me
to say anything yet exactly. I have posted my commands for the OP to copy and paste into terminal to supply the info needed to show what Debian and/or Ubuntu his install is based on.

What really kinda irks me is that for a easy Windows Like transition distro spinoff. (Zevon,Zorin,?)
This poster has the same problems as

http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?...Search&lang=en

which no one paid attention to in my post earlier. No one running Zorin is replying in this thread also, which I find kind of strange. You see. I kinda figure that the OP is running Ubuntu with makeup/lipstick/eyeshadow. Not Debian with the same. So I hesitate with recommending a Debian fix.
I use Debian/AntiX and don't use Ubuntu fixes in it or install Ubuntu ppa's.But I can put Ubuntu ppa's in Mint. I do use Debian to gather info on Ubuntu when needed
.
The Ubuntu fix may not be a Debian one though. I need the Ubuntu release number to drill down
to the fix.

For example:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1963121

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1244408

As you can see. This chip is buggy as all get out in Ubuntu

Quote:
Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote on 2013-10-25: #2

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

Will this bug ever be fixed? I can find references to it since 2011... Please, someone let me know if I can do anything to help!
How this ended right before jan 2014

Quote:
Willem Vanhulle (wlvh42) wrote on 2013-12-23: #7

I found a fix on this site (did i have to choose for fix committed?): https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
from site:
"This is a port of Realtek's own 8192cu driver for USB Wifi chipsets, ported to kernel 3.11 as ships with Ubuntu 13.10.

It was initially based on Timothy Phillips's work as published here: https://code.google.com/p/realtek-81...9-ubuntu-1304/, though no longer."
So a 3.11 or 3.12 kernel install would probably fix this with no driver/firmware fixing

Ubuntu kernels, images and headers can be had at

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...e/v3.12-saucy/

I do kernel changes sometimes like changing socks to fix wireless problems like these.
dpkg -i is my friend in terminal. I always keep a backup working kernel though in case
the new kernel install won't boot or I find hardware issues with the new kernel.

But. Until I know for sure this thread is Ubuntu or Debian. I cannot say anything for sure.

Good Luck and Happy Trails cuz it's Friday night, Rok

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Old 02-15-2014, 12:20 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
Well. Without a cat /etc/os-release readout. My best guess is he might be able to use the wheezy install method. But I would not bet the ranch on that.

These spinoff distros are Ubuntu based usually. Which is a totally different animal than Debian.

Since some spinoffs may be based on Debian unstable. Not enough info from the OP yet for me
to say anything yet exactly. I have posted my commands for the OP to copy and paste into terminal to supply the info needed to show what Debian and/or Ubuntu his install is based on.

What really kinda irks me is that for a easy Windows Like transition distro spinoff. (Zevon,Zorin,?)
This poster has the same problems as

http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?...Search&lang=en

which no one paid attention to in my post earlier. No one running Zorin is replying in this thread also, which I find kind of strange. You see. I kinda figure that the OP is running Ubuntu with makeup/lipstick/eyeshadow. Not Debian with the same. So I hesitate with recommending a Debian fix.
I use Debian/AntiX and don't use Ubuntu fixes in it or install Ubuntu ppa's.But I can put Ubuntu ppa's in Mint. I do use Debian to gather info on Ubuntu when needed
.
The Ubuntu fix may not be a Debian one though. I need the Ubuntu release number to drill down
to the fix.

For example:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1963121

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1244408

As you can see. This chip is buggy as all get out in Ubuntu



How this ended right before jan 2014



So a 3.11 or 3.12 kernel install would probably fix this with no driver/firmware fixing

Ubuntu kernels, images and headers can be had at

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa...e/v3.12-saucy/

I do kernel changes sometimes like changing socks to fix wireless problems like these.
dpkg -i is my friend in terminal. I always keep a backup working kernel though in case
the new kernel install won't boot or I find hardware issues with the new kernel.

But. Until I know for sure this thread is Ubuntu or Debian. I cannot say anything for sure.

Good Luck and Happy Trails cuz it's Friday night, Rok

After reading the post's in those links you provided I see where folks had to do some fiddling (blacklisting) to get that driver to work but having kernel panic if the dongle was removed. Some people weren't able to get the dongle working even with the driver installed. Buggy indeed:-

It sounds like OP will need support for this device otherwise there could be all kinds of performance issue's. I concur with you that kernel 3.11 or higher is wise to install.

I'm curious what the output of cat /etc/os-release is too:-

I find it a little odd too; that folks running Zorin OS aren't chiming in-

Thanks for the link to the kernel image and headers.
I have never installed a newer version of the kernel nor headers.
So, could Synaptic handle that or does that have to be executed cmdline only?

I don't like respins but I'm not leaving the ranch because I have a black stallion & a quarter horse to feed.
 
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parker.hugh:

When you have time please run these cmd's for us and post the output in code tags.

Code:
cd /etc  (hit enter)
Than run:
Code:
ls
This one is very important and will reveal the output rokytnji needs.
Code:
cat /etc/os-release
 
Old 02-15-2014, 01:33 AM   #38
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So, could Synaptic handle that or does that have to be executed cmdline only?
It's what I do. I go into the folder I downloaded image and header and open a terminal there.

Code:
sudo dpkg -i <kernel image name or header name goes here. use tab key for auto complete>
If you have gdebi. Left double click header first. Then Image second after header install.
That is the order I use in terminal also. My Mint kernel and Antix kernel is not stock if you check out my previous posts.

I am a distro team member and do kernel checks for Anti and another developer when asked because
I have numerous hardware (some exotic). Sometimes they work. Sometimes they don't. I tell them what and why (error messages). They fix the flags and we move on. Just for grins. One of my old standby download links, (I would not use it unless you needed a older kernel. eg: kernel regression).

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3t2...it?pli=1&hl=en

Edit: after looking through post 2 and the text link. There is no rtl driver
installed at all so a firmware install would go nowhere.
Nothing showed for lsusb -t as a driver for the Edimax rtl8188cus chip.

No nothing/nada.

Newer kernel install will probably fix this. 3.12 should do the trick (I hope).
I run a 3.12 Liqourix Kernel on a Single core Emachine 3507 Desktop that came out of a Dumpster. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d-deliver-174/

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Old 02-15-2014, 01:35 PM   #39
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Code:
If you have gdebi. Left double click header first. Then Image second after header install.
I don't have gdebi so install the newer kernel first and than proceed with installing the header?

Quote:
There is no rtl driver
installed at all so a firmware install would go nowhere.
Nothing showed for lsusb -t as a driver for the Edimax rtl8188cus chip.
I found the driver and I'm pretty sure OP has it in his Downloads directory.
It's the rtl8192cu_linux_v2.0.939.20100726.tar.gz
I'm wondering tho is that driver going to be sucessful because after the trouble folks have had with it; it seems like a newer version of the kernel is the best bet-:-
Until you know the output of cat /etc/os-release anything IMO (besides installing a new kernel) is sort of a pointless exercise.


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I run a 3.12 Liqourix Kernel on a Single core Emachine 3507 Desktop that came out of a Dumpster
That great news! LOL, my first PC was a Emachine.

I returned a 500 GB HDD to the company that made my desktop and in return I was given a 1 TB internal HDD-
(was going to throw the machine in the dumpster)
They didn't have to do that, that was nice of that Product Specialist to do that.

It's amazing what folks toss out; isn't it! ?
 
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Hi, I'm back and I have run the commands you suggested and the output is below....

Code:
hugh@HP-Compaq-nx6125:~$ cd /etc 

hugh@HP-Compaq-nx6125:/etc$ ls
ConsoleKit              host.conf              passwd-
NetworkManager          hostname               perl
UPower                  hosts                  pkcs11
X11                     hosts.allow            pm
adduser.conf            hosts.deny             pnm2ppa.conf
adjtime                 ifplugd                polkit-1
alternatives            init                   ppp
anacrontab              init.d                 printcap
apm                     initramfs-tools        profile
apparmor                inputrc                profile.d
apparmor.d              insserv                protocols
apport                  insserv.conf           pulse
apt                     insserv.conf.d         purple
at.deny                 iproute2               python
avahi                   issue                  python2.7
bash.bashrc             issue.dpkg-old         rc.local
bash_completion         issue.net              rc0.d
bash_completion.d       issue.net.dpkg-dist    rc1.d
bindresvport.blacklist  issue.net.dpkg-new     rc2.d
blkid.conf              kbd                    rc3.d
blkid.tab               kernel                 rc4.d
bluetooth               kernel-img.conf        rc5.d
ca-certificates         ld.so.cache            rc6.d
ca-certificates.conf    ld.so.conf             rcS.d
calendar                ld.so.conf.d           remastersys
casper.conf             ldap                   remastersys.conf
chatscripts             legal                  request-key.conf
chromium-browser        libnl-3                resolvconf
console-setup           libpaper.d             rmt
cron.d                  lightdm                rpc
cron.daily              locale.alias           rsyslog.conf
cron.hourly             localtime              rsyslog.d
cron.monthly            logcheck               sane.d
cron.weekly             login.defs             securetty
crontab                 logrotate.conf         security
cups                    logrotate.d            services
cupshelpers             lsb-base               sgml
dbus-1                  lsb-base-logging.sh    shadow
debconf.conf            lsb-release            shadow-
debian_version          lsb-release.dpkg-dist  shells
default                 lsb-release.dpkg-new   skel
deluser.conf            ltrace.conf            ssh
depmod.d                magic                  ssl
dhcp                    magic.mime             sudoers
dictionaries-common     mailcap                sudoers.d
discover-modprobe.conf  mailcap.order          sysctl.conf
discover.conf.d         manpath.config         sysctl.d
dpkg                    menu-methods           systemd
emacs                   mime.types             terminfo
environment             mke2fs.conf            timezone
esound                  modprobe.d             ts.conf
fonts                   modules                ucf.conf
foomatic                motd                   udev
fstab                   mtab                   ufw
fstab.d                 mtab.fuselock          uniconf.conf
fuse.conf               mtools.conf            update-manager
gai.conf                nanorc                 update-motd.d
gconf                   ndiswrapper            update-notifier
ghostscript             network                updatedb.conf
gnome                   networks               usb_modeswitch.conf
gnome-app-install       newt                   usb_modeswitch.d
gnome-system-tools      nsswitch.conf          vdpau_wrapper.cfg
groff                   ntp.conf               vim
group                   obex-data-server       vtrgb
group-                  opt                    wgetrc
grub.d                  os-release             wpa_supplicant
gshadow                 os-release.dpkg-new    wvdial.conf
gshadow-                pam.conf               xdg
gtk-2.0                 pam.d                  xml
gtk-3.0                 papersize              zsh_command_not_found
hdparm.conf             passwd

hugh@HP-Compaq-nx6125:/etc$ cat /etc/os-release
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu precise (12.04.2 LTS)"
VERSION_ID="12.04"
hugh@HP-Compaq-nx6125:/etc$
Does the output above help in any way to resolve my issue?

Q1. I was thinking that perhaps it would be best for me to re-install linux again. As I think my install is corrupt (any updates fail each time). So there is something wrong with the install.

As this is my first time trying linux I thought Zorin would be easy for beginners, but if you can suggest another distro I would be willing to give it a try. You guys seem to know your stuff and I would take any suggestions on board.

Q2. The edimax EW-7811Un USB wireless adapter seems to be unstable and difficult to install, so I was wondering is there a particular make of wireless-n adapter that is easy to install out of the box, I can purchase any brand you recommend. They don't cost much these days and if it installs first time it will be money well spent. I don't have the skills to trouble shoot any problems that might occur.

Thanks again for your help, let me know what you think I should do regarding my two questions above.

regards,

Hugh
 
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Does the output above help in any way to resolve my issue?
No. But it shows you have a "os-release" file at least.

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Q1. I was thinking that perhaps it would be best for me to re-install linux again. As I think my install is corrupt (any updates fail each time). So there is something wrong with the install.

As this is my first time trying linux I thought Zorin would be easy for beginners, but if you can suggest another distro I would be willing to give it a try. You guys seem to know your stuff and I would take any suggestions on board.
That brings to mind about did you do a md5sum check of downloaded Zorin iso before making your bootable medium (eg: dvd,usb). As far as other distro. AntiX handles my older internal usb realtek wireless g on my M&A companion netbook just fine.

From what I am posting from. Mint 14 Mate. My Atheros wireless N pci uses the ath9K module/driver
just fine.

So investigating

I'd go with a friendlier usb adapter like This one

But if wanting good personal support with your existing one and a Easy to learn system
I would fly with SolydX (not K) which comes with the xfce desktop and is basically Debian with Lipstick/Makeup.

But the members are knowledgeable, nice, and helpful on their forums where Zorin is keeping
you out in the cold. You asked and I said. Take it or leave it.

Another good one but is in Beta stage. I have beta2 installed on a old IBM M41 Desktop Tower.
http://www.mepis.org/node/177
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewforum.php?f=91

They are a great bunch of knowledgable, helpful users there also who I appreciate like LQ.

As I said

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAqxPh_h9E4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A62DhIu2_wE

it is something I do on every Linux application,iso,kernel I download so to avoid doubt of file
corruption before I go installing anything off the net.
 
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I just looked on ebay for that Airlink wireless n usb adapter and they are cheap there compared to amazon.
 
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Does the output above help in any way to resolve my issue?
Like rokytnji said: no and installing a newer version of the 'kernel & headers' may/may not support or solve the hardware issue.

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As I think my install is corrupt (any updates fail each time). So there is something wrong with the install.
The iso file may have been corrupt and the internet connection may not of been stable. (Wireless fluxuates alot) And on another note there was trouble at one point with your Sudo Password. ***When you do a fresh install don't forget to write down your Username and password and your "root" password or authentication will fail.***

I had a Linksys USB dongle for about 4 years and it worked great with Linux.
The Airlink will do well too-
http://support.linksys.com/en-us/sup...54GSC/download

Solydx looks good!
Aside from that you could go with Linux Mint 16 or Debian 7:-
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
http://www.debian.org/

Another thing that might help you dearly is the "Debian Administrator's Handbook" (OR) the "Ubuntu Linux Bible" by William Von Hagan
It will increase your knowledge on how to work with the Package Management System and how to run Ubuntu and Debian based distributions a lot more efficiently.
http://debian-handbook.info/
http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-bible-pdf-guide.html
http://it-ebooks.info/book/2752/

http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
http://www.basiclinuxcommand.com/bas...-commands.html
 
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