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Old 11-23-2010, 11:31 AM   #16
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I don't down-rep just for a possibly faulty answer given in good faith. That's not the purpose of the rep system in my opinion.
Well in that case, you shouldn't down rep yourself for the faulty answer you gave about "man services". I'm sure if you continue looking, you will find faulty answers I've given, but the one you "found" isn't wrong.

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:21 PM   #17
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I don't see your point, and I don't think that you are the one that has to parent me. May be, before judging and offending me you should have looked at my post history. Instead you are arguing, how you are right and all the others with my opinion are false. I think you are the first for me to work out how the ignore list works.

Edit: By the way, only quantity counts?
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Man, 5000 posts seems so far away. Well, this is one closer. . .
Good one.

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:29 PM   #18
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I don't see your point, and I don't think that you are the one that has to parent me. May be, before judging and offending me you should have looked at my post history. Instead you are arguing, how you are right and all the others with my opinion are false. I think you are the first for me to work out how the ignore list works.

Edit: By the way, only quantity counts? Good one.
I'm not trying to parent anyone. I'm asking you to parent yourself. And it has taken me over 6 years to get 1200 posts. So, even if I aspire to someday get 5000 posts, it isn't going to be anytime soon.
 
Old 11-23-2010, 12:42 PM   #19
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I guess you could down rep me for my so called "faulty" answer, but it is in fact, NOT faulty. Perhaps it is that your distro doesn't have the service command.
Yes, the service command is one of those goofy, non-standard Red Hat things, I believe.

If your distribution is not RH-based (RHEL, Oracle, CentOS, etc ...), you will not have it or its man page, but you will have a man page about /etc/services.

I didn't discover the service command until I got my RHCE, as I am a Slackware user.

The answer was valid, and good, in my own humble opinion. The only "homework" I could see you needing to know this answer for would be for an enterprise Linux certification class of some kind. In that case, telling the OP to "try 'man service'" is actually a more helpful answer in the long run than telling him what the syntax of the command would be.

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:51 PM   #20
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foodown, I totally agree with you. My ONLY contention is with the word try. But, I guess I don't understand English because my understanding of the word does NOT imply running a command and looking at its output for the answer.

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Old 11-23-2010, 12:58 PM   #21
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My ONLY contention is with the word try. But, I guess I don't understand English because my understanding of the word does NOT imply running a command and looking at its output for the answer.
I can appreciate your interpretation of the phrasing of the answer. I can fully see how you could read it that way.

What ever happened to the OP?!?! He marked the thread as "solved," but we got no "resolution" post. Too bad.

I have to admit, I laughed a little when I thought about a teacher grading an assignment and seeing "man service" as an answer to that question.

I could see it now:

"How would you manually start this service?"

"Well, for starters, prof, you could R.T.F.M!"

LOL
 
Old 11-23-2010, 01:00 PM   #22
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Sorry, but I had to peek at your answers although you are on my ignore list now.
Definitions of try:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict.../british/try_1
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict.../british/try_2
 
Old 11-23-2010, 01:07 PM   #23
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Yes, TobiSGD, you are capable of proving my point. From your definition, if someone asked, "I have bad dandruff, what should I do?" the example sentence "Try using a different shampoo" is DIRECTLY going to give the answer. For the OP question, "What would I put down for the answer", "Try this 'man service'" INDIRECTLY is going to give the answer, but nowhere do you state that it is INDIRECT. You are telling the OP, "Try putting 'man service' down for the answer". You are NOT telling him (as you assume), "Try running 'man service' and look at the output for the answer".

HTH

Forrest
 
Old 11-23-2010, 01:22 PM   #24
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guys/girls...

according to the forum rules, asking homework questions is not allowed.
Everyone answering them, is also in violation of the rules. (since you answer a forbidden question)

mods: lock please...
 
Old 11-23-2010, 01:25 PM   #25
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Teebones, there is NOTHING in the rules that forbid asking homework questions. The rule you are referring to is:

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Do not expect LQ members to do your homework - you will learn much more by doing it yourself.
Thus, you are free to ask homework questions, we are free to answer homework questions, but you are NOT allowed to EXPECT us to answer them.

HTH

Forrest

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Old 11-23-2010, 01:37 PM   #26
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I am sorry to butt in then please consider my thoughts.
The answer was given in good faith and if the OP wrote 'man services' it would have caused him a good deal of inconvinences but then he would have (i think) gotten the idea that it was a command to run. Learning linux without making a mistake is something that is right next to impossible.
What I want to say is this *before* you deduct someones reps (as if someone really cared) you ought to talk and come to a conclusion about what went wrong and give the other person a chance to defend his answer. For me english is not the first language and so silly mistakes like this would happen so I would rather have somelne tell me what really happened before downgrading me like this.
 
Old 11-23-2010, 01:46 PM   #27
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Definition enough...

At the risk of loosing points, but not a smile.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/casuistry

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Old 11-23-2010, 02:06 PM   #28
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guys/girls...

according to the forum rules, asking homework questions is not allowed.
Everyone answering them, is also in violation of the rules. (since you answer a forbidden question)

mods: lock please...
But you can point someone in the correct direction. The original poster was completely honest about this. We should provide direction/coaching.
 
Old 11-23-2010, 02:42 PM   #29
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But you can point someone in the correct direction. The original poster was completely honest about this. We should provide direction/coaching.
It isn't a but. There is NOTHING in the rules preventing asking or answering homework questions.

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Old 11-23-2010, 02:51 PM   #30
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It isn't a but. There is NOTHING in the rules preventing asking or answering homework questions.

Forrest
Here is the quote:
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Do not expect LQ members to do your homework - you will learn much more by doing it yourself.
from this page
http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html

As I understand it people can post their homework questions but they should not expect their homework to be done for them. We should help them find the answer without feeding it to them.

So, posting homework questions is permitted, answering the question is not prohibited, but coaching appears to be the preferred approach. The quote from the rules appears to be focused on shaping the expectations of the original poster.

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