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Old 10-14-2009, 10:59 PM   #1
vigdavies
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I'm seriously more frustrated than ever !!!


I want to have Ubuntu 9.04 Linux work....it freezes up more than Windows right now. Synaptic Package Manager must be constipated. Cheese Webcam Booth locks up as well. I can't even see some of the programs that I've downloaded. Wine doesn't seem to work as I would of hoped. Crossover seems overrated. Firefox, and the e-mail prgm work. I only can close windows down by going to the file pull down menu to exit or close it out. The X to exit doesn't appear. What do I do ? Can anyone help ? Is this fixable ?
 
Old 10-14-2009, 11:15 PM   #2
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:52 PM   #3
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escally unbuntu
it has to be the most frustrating distro ever
 
Old 10-15-2009, 12:28 AM   #4
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escally unbuntu
it has to be the most frustrating distro ever
I would definitely not agree to that. OP has issues with it, Agreed. But that does not mean its issue with OS. It could be the hardware, the corrupt media or the iso downloaded or various other factors.
The most issues seen are with wireless cards and graphic cards. Later one could be the issue with OP.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:09 AM   #5
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I def do not agree that ubuntu is a problematic distro. I have been using it from back in version 8 days and upgraded each time using apt. Never lost any files or program crashes.

All kernal upgrades and patches have also gone to plan and very smoothly.

And being it is the most downloaded distro to date it is doing something right? dont you agree people???


Personally I think it could be a problem between the chair and the keyboard.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:21 AM   #6
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I want to have Ubuntu 9.04 Linux work....it freezes up more than Windows right now. Synaptic Package Manager must be constipated. Cheese Webcam Booth locks up as well. I can't even see some of the programs that I've downloaded. Wine doesn't seem to work as I would of hoped. Crossover seems overrated. Firefox, and the e-mail prgm work. I only can close windows down by going to the file pull down menu to exit or close it out. The X to exit doesn't appear. What do I do ? Can anyone help ? Is this fixable ?
Post your hardware specs, especially the video card and driver you are using. While I personally do not like Ubuntu it is a good distro.

Not all windows apps are going to work in linux not even with wine/Crossover. If you have to have windows apps that do not work, I would suggest dual booting.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:28 AM   #7
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Sounds like he may need to clean the interior or upgrade his pc.

Larry
 
Old 10-15-2009, 01:52 PM   #8
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How do you get a clean slate for Ubuntu 9.04 ?

Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.

FYI, I don't have need for dual boot; I want to permanently transition over into Linux and leave Windows. I have gotten Linux to boot by itself. I have transitioned over when I had full functionality regarding .xls files over to .ods files, and when I was able to see my entire file system in Linux. There are some prgms that I do want to run by loading up Wine because they are not available in Linux and I still need to transition over the date to convert to use in Linux. Eventually I want to be rid of anything to do with Bill Gates' Windows environment.

I am a determined individual that knows he's going through a tough learning curve, and just needs some guidance as to what to do, and to resolve things, and do things right. I have no guide here and am venturing into the unknown seeing about getting help online.

Right now things aren't working out on my new Linux system on a Dell Dimension 5150 / XPS 200 desktop computer. I am seriously wondering if I need to re-install and start from scratch or get fixes put in or things to give me full funcitonality back. I don't have much time for troubleshooting. I believe a computer should serve me and not I serve it.

Please advise, fix, correct, and help.

Sincerely,

Vince
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:04 PM   #9
vigdavies
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Some information for you to helpe me

I have a Dell Dimension 5150C / XPS 200. It has 2GB DDR2 SDRAM, 3.2 GHz dual intel CPUs in it in one chip. It's the processor prior to the intel dual core. I have a 500GB HD w 32MB cache, one - DVD/CD R/W drive, a nVidia integrated video, two 1394 ports, 7 on-board USB 2.0 ports, 2 mic and 2 - speakers connection points in a integrated chassis. the poser supply is 175W. Fan over CPU to cool. Not much room in it to vent air, but it keeps cool. Fan in only on much when running alot of aps.

BTW, I don't know what OP stands for.

And yes, I the operator & administrator of my system needs to know more. I am really a super beginner newbie in Linux.

I look forward to all of your help .

Sincerely,

Vince (lives in Calgary, AB., Canada)
 
Old 10-15-2009, 06:42 PM   #10
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1. OP = original poster; used when responding/talking to OP when the preceding comment is not from OP.

2. The Ubuntu website has lots of support/forums http://www.ubuntu.com/support
3. Linux cmd line guides
http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-G...tml/index.html
http://linux.die.net/man/

Nothing wrong with trying to stick to the GUI, but sometimes you'll need to use the cmd line, especially if a system has issues. The GUI assumes everything is in a known state.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:02 PM   #11
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@ vigdavies

Have you tried using other distros like fedora, PClinuxOS, linux mint as live CDs? If you want to stick to a ubuntu derivative, try linux mint first. Unlike ubuntu, mint will install all media codecs and non-free drivers and more during installation.

Another distro you can try is Arch linux. It is a rolling release distro which focuses on bleeding-edge. This distro may be difficult for a linux newbie like you, but it is worth a try. The arch website has an excellecnt wiki manual to configure just about everything. See sig for link.

Last edited by dv502; 10-15-2009 at 07:04 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 10:31 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vigdavies View Post
I want to have Ubuntu 9.04 Linux work....it freezes up more than Windows right now. Synaptic Package Manager must be constipated. Cheese Webcam Booth locks up as well. I can't even see some of the programs that I've downloaded. Wine doesn't seem to work as I would of hoped. Crossover seems overrated. Firefox, and the e-mail prgm work. I only can close windows down by going to the file pull down menu to exit or close it out. The X to exit doesn't appear. What do I do ? Can anyone help ? Is this fixable ?
The sort of problems you describe are likely related to the graphics driver being used for X-Windows. Check the nVidia web site for a Linux driver for your exact nVidia chip. You can use this command to list out PCI devices including the graphics chip.

lspci

Look for the description of the nVidia graphics chip or adapter card.

Post the exact nVidia information if you want more help.
 
Old 10-16-2009, 09:16 AM   #13
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about the nVidia Linux driver

Thanks for your input. I'll try the download of the nVidia Linux driver for the video card for my machine, and use the command you provided. Hope fully I can even load the driver up.

Rgds,

Vince
 
Old 10-16-2009, 11:45 AM   #14
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Vince, try not to get too frustrated with Linux. There are lots of people willing to help you get it working. It can take some time, especially at first while one is learning about Linux.

I'm a programmer and it took me a good month or two before I really felt comfortable with Linux and had everything working the way I wanted. The good news is usually once you get Linux working it stays working except for the occasional problem when you update software.

You can choose when you want to update software since Linux programmers don't try to make things incompatible just to force users to update. Although Ubuntu may offer you updates you don't usually have to install them. Security bug fixes might be more important than others but it's less of an issue with Linux than Windows.

X-Windows and the video are a complicated area because of the sheer number of different graphics chips and features for those. So far I've gotten Linux working with all of my computers, even the one with an old Voodoo 3 card. On some of the stranger cards some features like 3D acceleration might not work. I don't think you have that situation since you probably have a rather new and standard nVidia chip.

To cut down on the frustration starting with Linux it helps to decide what things are the most important and make sure that you can do them. If necessary you might have to use another OS like Windows until you get Linux configured and working. Sometimes what is familiar is easier to get up and running even if it isn't necessarily better in the long run.

Don't forget that Ubuntu is not the only distro. If you have too much trouble you can try another distro. I use Slackware and will be happy to help you get that or Ubuntu working, or whatever distro you like. In some cases one particular distro may work better or worse with your hardware, or simply have defaults that avoid some problems you are having.

I think that you will find after you invest some time into Linux it will pay off. If nothing else it helps to know another OS and another way of doing things. The concepts you learn using Linux will help you use any OS.
 
Old 10-16-2009, 01:37 PM   #15
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@vigdavies

I think Ubuntu is just a fine distro, really easy to use and is focussing on latest software and latest kernel (hardware support).

I really understand your frustration! I've been using linux now for more than 5 years I think. In the beginning I dual booted and it was a disaster if my Windoze didn't boot anymore. Then when I got familiar with the concepts of linux, it was a disaster when my Linux didn't boot anymore. Now I'm clean for +/-2 years I think.

Like Erik_FL says, Try not to get frustrated, I know from my experience that it's hard not to but just try, and if you have a question ask it over here and try to use the search function, it has helped me out a LOT!!!

I'm not saying that I'm an expert or advanced, no, I just use it and sometime, I try to dig a bit and see how linux works.

Some nice things to know:

ALT-F2: shortcut to start programs, type the name of the program and enter, gnome-terminal gnome-calculator, firefox, and so on ...

ALT-F4 works for closing windows.

If all fails, throw in the live-CD and see if it gets better if you reboot from the CD.

Also the Nvidia driver ... I have an Nvidia card at home and I can tell you, to install it was a pain in the @ss. I don't want to discourage you but I remember it took me some days (and yes a lot of frustration) but I got it working, propable thanks to linuxquestions.org .

That's the only annoying thing about linux (actually about vendors like Nvidia who don't want there drivers to be open source )

Hang in there buddy, you're about to open a new world of a well working OS!!!
 
  


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