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Old 02-26-2014, 12:47 AM   #1
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Hp PC running XP, want upgrade to Linux


Hi Folks,
We are using an HP a1217n PC with XP.
It has been worked on ,had motherboard, hard drive replaced, now it won't accept our original Xp operating system , the generic XP disk they gave us asked for a second cd which they didn't give us, it loaded the first one , but didn't have sound card or modem , so we downloaded them from the original HP disk. we opened the disk as a read files ,and got it to work,now it wont accept our memory upgrade from 1 gig to 2 gig,
Question is if we install Linux mint or any xp -like Linux, will our PC then accept the other 1 gig of memory?
We are using the PC for home recording and basic email and web browsing, the recording interface is a Scarlett 2i2 usb,, and using Ableton live lite software.
Any help or suggestions would be great,
Thank you all , cuznchub
 
Old 02-26-2014, 02:05 AM   #2
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Strange that the PC is not accepting the RAM. I've seen that happen but usually it's when you are trying to upgrade above 4GB (due to motherboard firmware issues).

So honestly, even XP ought to be accepting the RAM.

But Mint is certainly worth a shot; far be it from me to question XP's ability to act irrationally.

You can try Mint without installing it, running it straight from a CD or DVD. So you could install the RAM upgrade and then boot from the Mint LiveCD, and see if the memory is being read, which you can do by opening a terminal and typing this command:

free -m

Look at the total number, should be roughly 2048 (or thereabouts) if 2GB of RAM is being read.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:31 AM   #3
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NotKlaatu,
thanks for the reply, we wondered which mint version we should try, we only have dial up service right now, and with 1 gig memory , would it take along time to download to a cd, we know nothing about Linux yet, just started reading about it, , glad we found this site,,,
we appreciate all you guys and gals do in helping!
thanks C&C
 
Old 02-26-2014, 08:04 AM   #4
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yes, you can try several linux distributions without installing them (live CD), but it is not related to that RAM issue at all. You need to enter BIOS and check it (probably incompatible??)
 
Old 02-26-2014, 08:46 AM   #5
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What do you mean by will not accept? Does the computer boot and can you access the BIOS?
Did you use the correct type and size of memory? Do you know if the new RAM is good?
If you have a perfect connection at 56Kps it would take approx 25 hours do download 640Mb.

Other options might be a users group in your city where you can ask for CD/DVD or you can order one on line.
https://www.osdisc.com/

http://h20565.www2.hp.com/portal/sit...4892.492883150
 
Old 02-26-2014, 11:36 AM   #6
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Ableton Live will not run natively in Linux. You might want to try a music specific linux distro like:

http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/

or

http://ubuntustudio.org/

They both have tons of different audio applications built in that can replace Live, Pro Tools, various effect plug ins etc. You can try either from a live cd / live usb before installing to see how they run on your hardware. You will probably want more than 1 gb of ram for music creation/recording. Ram is pretty cheap these days so you might want to buy some more and get up to at least 4-8gb if possible. But figure out if the ram is you have is being seen in the bios first as others recommended before going out and buying more
 
Old 02-26-2014, 12:22 PM   #7
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If you keen on music, I really would recommend Ubuntu Studio. I gave it 9/10:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/review...page/15/sort/7

If you can't find someone to download a DVD for you, you can find a company that will send you a disk.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ubuntu-Studi...-/261091115402
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...Aubuntu+studio

I've assumed you're in the USA, but there are dealers everywhere from India to New Zealand.

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Old 02-26-2014, 02:16 PM   #8
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OP, sorry I missed the part about 'Ableton Live' in your question. As others have pointed out, Ableton will not run on Linux because Ableton doesn't release a Linux version. However, if you install Mint (or whatever) then you can install JACK (a patchbay, more or less, that interconnects all the different sound applications) and then a good DAW like Ardour, and possibly some fancy plugin like SooperLooper (it's a bit like Ableton in the sense of encouraging on-the-spot production, live looping, and so on), then you should be good to go.


However, as I said, the RAM issue seems unrelated to OS, so you should check on what's going on there either way.
 
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Old 02-26-2014, 08:54 PM   #9
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[QUOTE=michaelk;5124998]What do you mean by will not accept? Does the computer boot and can you access the BIOS?
Did you use the correct type and size of memory? Do you know if the new RAM is good?
If you have a perfect connection at 56Kps it would take approx 25 hours do download 640Mb.

Hi Michael,
Our bios says 1024 mb in the memory, the pc originally had 512ram , we got another 512 and it works fine , we wanted to go up to 2gig (max) that our pc will take , we installed it, (new PNY ddr2-4200 )it wont work with 1 gig stick or 2 , and the pc fans started going really fast, no screen lit or anything, so we took it out and put the 2 512 sticks back in and it works, so we have 1 gig, the tec that was here installed a new Mother Board and it wont accept our original OS disk.
We had a generic xp and got it to work. It asked for disk #2 which we didn't have , so we ended up having to get the modem and sound card drivers from the old HP disk by going to it as a read file and copied it. So, we are working, just not original HP. They should have got us back to original OS, but we are out of warranty now,
we appreciate all your help , we have access to a library with internet ,so we can go there and download the Ubuntu disk there ,as they are really high speed.
thank you again , C&C
 
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The only time I've experienced that kind of reaction from a computer is when I put the wrong kind of RAM into it. How did you determine that your PC took DDR2-4200 ? Is there any possibility that you need some other kind of RAM?
 
Old 02-27-2014, 01:42 AM   #11
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The only time I've experienced that kind of reaction from a computer is when I put the wrong kind of RAM into it. How did you determine that your PC took DDR2-4200 ? Is there any possibility that you need some other kind of RAM?
hi,notKlaatu, Thats what the HP website told us. we typed in our model# and got all the specs. , and we looked at what was in there too before we ordered it, we checked with crucial too, ordered the 512 mb after we got the 1 gig, no clue why its acting like that, the only thing we can think of is that the computer motherboard , is the problem somehow, it takes the 512 fine , but wont take the 1 gig sticks,
if we do download Linux, wonder if it would recognize it , with out windows xp in use, this is weird huh! C&C
 
Old 02-27-2014, 01:58 AM   #12
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The operating system will not matter if the PC does not boot or go through POST. Some computers may be sensitive to the make of RAM. Not sure about HPs. The new motherboard might also be defective.
 
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and again, the recognition of the RAM occurred before booting the OS therefore it dos not depend on the os (linux cannot recognize it, xp cannot recognize it).
try to remove the 512 mb and use only 1gb
 
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:16 AM   #14
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try to remove the 512 mb and use only 1gb
thanks guys,
we tried to just use 1 gig and it wouldn't do anything but like we said,fan was really fast, so we tried all different combinations, it works with 2- 512 mb, so that gives us 1 gig, and we can use the PC,
we may try and contact that service place we used, there has to be an answer, thanks for your help,C&C
 
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Hi Folks,
We are using an HP a1217n PC with XP.
It has been worked on ,had motherboard, hard drive replaced, now it won't accept our original Xp operating system , the generic XP disk they gave us asked for a second cd which they didn't give us, it loaded the first one , but didn't have sound card or modem , so we downloaded them from the original HP disk. we opened the disk as a read files ,and got it to work,now it wont accept our memory upgrade from 1 gig to 2 gig,
Question is if we install Linux mint or any xp -like Linux, will our PC then accept the other 1 gig of memory?
We are using the PC for home recording and basic email and web browsing, the recording interface is a Scarlett 2i2 usb,, and using Ableton live lite software.
Any help or suggestions would be great,
Thank you all , cuznchub
I strongly suggest you to check the BIOS to find if 2gig mem is accepted, if yes, linux will be fine
 
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