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Old 02-02-2009, 07:46 AM   #1
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How to swap laptop hd into desktop PC to install Damn Small Linux (or other linux)??


Hello everyone-my question is simple enough and yes I did Google it. Ok, I have a Toshiba 7000ct Portege w/ 160mb RAM, 4gb HD, 11" screen, floppy but no CD-ROM drive, and 1 USB port. The Bios can't boot from USB, but when I use boot floppy the DSL on USB starts, but then says it can't find Knoppix image and searches sdb1, sda1, sdc, etc...this doesn't happen when I run the same USB drive on my PC-it finds the image and boots right up?
So, my problem is that the laptop has a Limited HD-only 4GB. I have Crunchbang 8.04 installed on laptop now via USB, but it's taking up over 2Gb now, and I need something lighter--like DSL-which I will install Debian style and have apt-get, etc. and it only comes up to 200mb+ installed. Additionally, Crunchbang is stressing out the low-ram and I know DSL won't.
So-I want to remove the HD from the laptop, hook it to my PC via either the CD-ROM flat-cable or HD cable right? I live in a rural area and have no access to a hd carriage, etc. I read somewhere that you can hook the laptop HD to an existing Desktop PC's cd-rom cable or hd cable, make sure to ground!, and then install distro, remove laptop hd and put it back in the laptop and boot up-right? or wrong?
Is there a way to make changes to DSL so that it will recognize itself on the laptop?maybe edit something?
I am using the laptop solely for writing short stories, etc-so don't need Heavy distros that eat RAM and make the fan run constantly!I do need the HD space-which is why I think DSL is perfect-and I tried puppy, but had copy-and-paste issues and problems mounting USB's, etc.
UPDATE-UPDATE!!
Ok-now I have DSL trying to boot- recognizes USB-but now gets stuck at the line"...ACPI BIOS found, activating modules-ac battery button fan processor thermal"
The bootup stops here and freezes, even using cheatcodes like install/lowram/no acpi/no apic/ etc, etc
What can I do?
Why is it hanging?
Is it a hardware problem(I noticed whenever Crunchbang was loading it would say acpi=force force is required to enable acpi...what does this mean??
Thanks everyone for your help!!
 
Old 02-02-2009, 11:39 AM   #2
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So-I want to remove the HD from the laptop, hook it to my PC via either the CD-ROM flat-cable or HD cable right? I read somewhere that you can hook the laptop HD to an existing Desktop PC's cd-rom cable or hd cable, make sure to ground!, and then install distro, remove laptop hd and put it back in the laptop and boot up-right? or wrong?
Its not that clear cut. If you have the same chipset and processor on both machines, then it is almost certain to work. If you don't, then its more questionable; it might work, it might not, but even if it doesn't work it might be easy to fix. So, you can certainly argue that it is worth trying if you don't have an existing installation that you are in danger of messing up.

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Is it a hardware problem(I noticed whenever Crunchbang was loading it would say acpi=force force is required to enable acpi...what does this mean??
ACPI is an interface to the power management functions (see, for example the articles referenced here http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...ition&ct=title), and, when it was first introduced many machines were not compliant. So, in general, the software tries to detect compliance and only if the machine is compliant, use it. Of course, in some cases you get a false negative; a machine is detected as non-compliant, when in fact it is compliant. In that case, if you want to use ACPI, you have to force it, because the software having detected non-compliance will not otherwise use it.
 
Old 02-03-2009, 05:36 AM   #3
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Hello linus72, I have to start off by saying that I don't know a great deal about technology be it software or hardware but I enjoy old laptops and getting them up and running again, staying within the narrow margins of utility and performance is a real treat!

It appears your Toshiba may have come with Microsoft Windows 95 or Windows NT, both of which would facilitate a BIOS upgrade. Do you have the latest BIOS update installed (BIOS version 8.50, release date- 07/24/01)? This can sometimes make a difference in terms of the features that are granted.

For linus72, salasi and others, I noticed in the Damn Small Linux wiki cheatcode page that there is a no acpi option that can be passed at boot time and a second and separate option which is acpi=off. What would the difference be and is this of any relevance to the Portege's support for acpi 1.0?

Also, it may be of no consequence to your immediate problem but the Linux Information for Toshiba site, maintained by Toshiba engineers, I presume, appears to have drivers for function keys and the like. These drivers concern a variety of things including LCD screen brightness for laptops, which should prove beneficial for a writer on an aging screen.
 
Old 02-03-2009, 06:04 AM   #4
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So-I want to remove the HD from the laptop, hook it to my PC via either the CD-ROM flat-cable or HD cable right? I live in a rural area and have no access to a hd carriage, etc. I read somewhere that you can hook the laptop HD to an existing Desktop PC's cd-rom cable or hd cable, make sure to ground!
Connecting a laptop drive to a desktop system isn't quite that easy. The pata/ide interface is the same, but the connector is a different size. Laptop drives are usually 2.5" and use a smaller plug than a desktop's 3.5" drives. You'll need a converter of some kind in order to connect the one to the other. Something like this.

Once you get it connected though, it should be accessible just like any other drive.
 
  


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