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Old 07-16-2009, 01:16 PM   #16
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Wow! A real answer to my question without being judged.
Thanks David. It is incredible how simple was to solve the problem.

I promise to delete the virtual machine after I play around a bit.
If I decide to continue to use Linux, I promise to start from an earlier point where nothing was tampered. I have 5 restore points until now, each of them absolutely safe (I just installed Java, FF3.5 and few other safe programs from their original we site).

Thanks again man for the answer but also for not judging.
Not sure If you got your answer about auto login for a user but With gnome you login with the normal user and use the gdm setup (I think there is a command but I don't have a linux machine nearby) and you should see Automatic login and you can select the user.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 02:03 PM   #17
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Hey, if you tried Linux back in 1998, then a lot (if not everything) has changed (if you want an old look and feel, Debian is a good distro, it seems pretty conservative, though they included a "graphical" installer in their last release). When I started using Linux - I think it was in 2003 - life with Linux was different from today (the wine win app runner was nowhere as far as today, just an example). If you only want to try out Linux in a VM, maybe Debian is a good distro because it can be quite minimal. I think it's got its installation speed (faster than e.g. two releases earlier!) from Ubuntu, and it's not as stuffed as Ubuntu. In case you are interested, you can download an installer from e.g. their homepage, debian.org.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 02:08 PM   #18
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if you want an old look and feel, Debian is a good distro, it seems pretty conservative, though they included a "graphical" installer in their last release).
old look and feel?
conservative ?
Did you ever used debian?
 
Old 07-16-2009, 02:21 PM   #19
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old look and feel?
conservative ?
Did you ever used debian?
I know, it uses new themes, GTK, QT, I even used compiz with it. But for example the installation process hasn't changed greatly for years except that it becomes more easy, faster etc., but it's not as innovative as e.g. Ubuntu which uses a live mode for installation (I know, graphical installer, but if you use it, it's worse than the text-based one because it simply emulates the text-based one instead of implementing the functions graphically - bah!).
I don't mean to say that Debian is a bad thing - I used it for years for my desktop PC and I still use it for my home server -, it's even good to have a stable distro that just works cleanly and securely. That is BTW the reason why Ubuntu builds upon it - but that's a different story .
 
Old 07-16-2009, 03:09 PM   #20
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There are some distros that are set up to log in as root. I think Slax, and certainly Slynux, were set up this way (Slynux likely is no longer being developed). Lindows (now Linspire) used to have only a root user. Anyway, for Ubuntu, I imagine you would first have to enable root (you can search the web for how to do that) and then set up your display manager to automatically log you in as root. If the display manager won't do it, then there are ways to bypass the display manager (gdm), and set up an automatic log in without needing to enter a password (I do this, given that I've gotten rid of gdm, though I use a regular user, meaning that any superuser functions still require a password from me.)

Slynux may be the best option for you. You can still get Slynux, and, given that it is based on Knoppix, you may be able to update and upgrade it via adding Knoppix repositories to your sources.list.

later: There is no longer a place to download Slynux for free, but you may be able to order it from the developer (who is a teenager in India -- I myself did donate to him).

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Old 07-16-2009, 06:41 PM   #21
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Thanks god there are also "decent" Linux users.
I got so mad when I have seen that the owners of Ubuntu decided not to make public the information.
They just stick the forum rules under my nose and said that no matter for which reason (not even for a damn virtual machine) the users of that forum and the producers of the system are not allowed to disclose the information to beginners and locked the thread so nobody could post the info. A good user sent me a PM with info.

Nice way to welcome new users.
I glad to switch from the monopolistic Windows to the "open" and "we know better than you" Linux.

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Old 07-16-2009, 06:48 PM   #22
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Yes, unfortuneatley some/many linux folk try to keep secrets*

this is I think because using Linux, with the right knowledge, you can easily Hack someones computer.

Nobody wants a hacker taking em apart
and also maybe 'cause if you break the system, easy to do on ubuntu, etc
you would be at the forum asking how to fix it

do you want portable-qemu windows-90%?
it runs on windows or linux
off usb, hd, or cd
 
Old 07-16-2009, 06:52 PM   #23
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i have been running as root every day for the past couple of years or so [puppy]

live dangerously!
 
Old 07-16-2009, 06:54 PM   #24
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QEmu also runs images. BTW I think you can run a desktop with root by loggin into the shell (ctl+alt+F1) as root and then typing "startx -- :1".

(edit): You could even automatically start a session like that; if you remove GDM from your runscripts (sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/S*gdm), you can add a "startx" to some runscript (runscripts are located in /etc/init.d/). But I'm not sure if Ubuntu doesn't have security mesures there.

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Old 07-16-2009, 07:06 PM   #25
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Yes, unfortuneatley some/many linux folk try to keep secrets*

this is I think because using Linux, with the right knowledge, you can easily Hack someones computer.

Nobody wants a hacker taking em apart
and also maybe 'cause if you break the system, easy to do on ubuntu, etc
you would be at the forum asking how to fix it

do you want portable-qemu windows-90%?
it runs on windows or linux
off usb, hd, or cd
By the way does anyone know if the fixed the bug in Ubuntu. I remember messing around and found that if you did a
Code:
sudo passwd root
you could give root a password and login as root but it totaly borked your sudo system.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 07:15 PM   #26
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Frankly, what you are trying to achieve can be done easily without any security risks. Just install nautilus-gksu and nautilus-terminal. Open up a terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and copy-paste this:
sudo aptitude install nautilus-gksu nautilus-open-terminal
This is a one-time operation. After you log back in, you will have a context menu that allows you to open system files with a right-click (context menu). As it will pop up a password box before you can start editing, the files will still be properly protected. Yeah, I know about the virtual machine and all - it is just that in my experience, people who start out the wrong way rarely get it right in the end.

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Old 07-16-2009, 07:21 PM   #27
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that's good info jay73
from a 72
 
Old 07-16-2009, 07:34 PM   #28
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@Windows_90%: I know you know what you're doing is dangerous, so I won't repeat that much. But what you're doing also violates a fundamental principle of running Unix-like systems. The folks advising you against it do know better than you. VM or no VM, you are going to pick up bad habits that you will have to unlearn later.

I also don't think it is fair to assume someone is "judging" you when they are trying to (albeit gruffly) help you.

Good luck.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 07:44 PM   #29
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No wonder now, why the Linux world is so tiny.
False premise. Here's a Netcraft summary of large hosting providers:

http://uptime.netcraft.com/perf/reports/Hosters

As of the July 16, 2009 report, company breakdowns for primary hosting OS look like:
  • Linux: 20
  • FreeBSD: 7
  • Windows: 7
  • Other: 6
 
Old 07-16-2009, 07:48 PM   #30
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No doubt Linux rocks!

Can i get a bootleg copy of RHEL5?
just joking...
 
  


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