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Old 04-13-2015, 06:10 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by herakles_14 View Post
As far as I can recall at no time during the partitioning of either my PCLOS or my Manjaro did I click on or check a box to mount anything.
Partitions are mounted automatically.

You can type the mount command (with no parameters) in a terminal window to see everything that is mounted at the moment and/or you can look at /etc/fstab to see what should get mounted each time the system boots.

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sda5 and sda6, which are the Root and Home partitions for PClinuxOS. sda3 is the Root partition for Manjaro, and sda4 is the Home partition for Manajo.
I think that means you can do all the partition moving without a bootable live system. But it still might be easier to do it with a bootable live system. Likely the install media of whatever Linux you want to install next includes a bootable live system.

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For an unknown reason at the end of sda4 is 'boot'.
That "boot" flag only matters when you are using a different kind of boot manager (based on a Microsoft design). When using Grub, that flag is irrelevant.

Edit: I momentarily forgot: The boot flag is also relevant when the OS being booted is Windows, even if using a boot manager (such as Grub) that doesn't care about the boot flag. So the boot flag is irrelevant for you because neither the OS (any Linux) nor Grub cares about it.

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You tell me to move sda4 to the physical end of the drive. Do you mean to the end of the 'unallocated space'? Then follow stuit with sda3, to have it close to sda4. In both cases they should be unmounted.
All correct.

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I believe to do what you ask, I would need to do part of it while using 'gparted' on PCLOS and the other art while I am using 'gparted' on Manjaro. A least that is my solution, or whatever.
That is one way. The other way is to be booted from some liveCD or install media (on USB, CD, DVD, etc.) while you do the whole job.

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On moving sda3 & sda4, could I right click and while holding the 'right button down 'drag' the partition to the end of the 'unallocated space'. Then do the same for sda3?

I am still unclear on how to expand sda2 to include all of the unallocated space.Would it be a similar 'drag & drop' move I suggested for sda3 & sda4 moves?
I don't recall the exact UI action in any specific GUI partitioning tool for those operations. In every GUI partitioning tool I've used, once you are in the tool and click on a few menus, it will be obvious how to do the operations you want to do.

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Old 04-13-2015, 10:21 AM   #17
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You could perform the actions from PCLinux and Manjaro as you mentioned above. It would be simpler if you had GParted on a LiveCD in my opinion as you could do everything without rebooting into a different system. If you are not sure how this is done, take a look at section 6 of the tutorial below which explains 'resizing' and 'moving' partitions. You can type in numbers for the new size as shown in the tutorial or drag the small horizontal arrows in the direction you want in the 'color bar', the horizontal box you see at the top of the images at the site below.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/g...mozTocId335513

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That "boot" flag only matters when you are using a different kind of boot manager (based on a Microsoft design). When using Grub, that flag is irrelevant.
The boot flag in this case is irrelevant as it is not necessary on a Linux system. What would be relevant is if you are using the bootloader from Manjaro to boot both it and PCLinux. If that's the case, I would expect the system would be unbootable as the Grub code in the MBR points to a specific sector on the hard drive for your boot code and you are moving that location.

Installing Grub from PCLinux to the mbr before beginning would be one option. Moving sda3 and sda4 and then installing your new system and installing it's Grub to the MBR as suggested would also be a simple option as long as everything works as it should.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 01:57 PM   #18
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Hey,

For me this has become very complicated and or convoluted to the extreme. Both my PCLinuxOS and my Manjaro are distros I downloaded from their respective sites and burned onto individual DVD discs. Would those disc be considered a liveCD?

When i had screwed up sufficiently enough to where I had to start over At that moment in a somewhat dubious partition history I was on my PCLOS ready to install anew this selfsame 'PCLOS'. When I reached that part in the installation where I had to decide whether to use the full disc for my installation or to partition it i would select to partition it. A gparted window would appear showing the partition set-up as it was at that point in thyme. In the lower left corner of that 'gparted' was a small box with 'clear all' beside it. I placed a check inh that box and I was faced with a clear gparted set-up.

With that clean slate, in a manner of speaking, I proceeded with the partitions for 'swap partition' and then for PCLinuxOS, root and home partitions. I then proceeded with the installation as 'normal' and once my PCLOS was installed and set-up I went and installed Manjaro.

Could I use this 'clear all' option to my advantage with a new installation of PCLOS and Manjaro? If so, how could it be set up so sda2 was an extended containing within it sda's 5 & 6 and the unallocated space. While sda3 and sda4 would be set up as they had been previously.

Using that possible set up or a variation thereof would I be able to have a set up where the possible additional distros would not be an issue, as long as I had sufficient 'free space' for them?

I know i would need to back up the files and what knots from each distro and place them on a flash drive before making the new installation.
 
Old 04-19-2015, 02:29 PM   #19
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If so, how could it be set up so sda2 was an extended containing within it sda's 5 & 6 and the unallocated space. While sda3 and sda4 would be set up as they had been previously.
I'm not sure why you would want to do that but what you would have to know beforehand is how big a partition you want for sda3 and sda4 and then use the remaining space when you create sda2 as an Extended partition. You would need to include all the remaining space in the Extended partition for it to be usable. In your earlier post above, you show sda3 as 82GB and sda4 as 128GB which is 210GB of your 320GB drive. Your Extended partition is only about 60GB. You also have a 10GB swap which seems excessive. When you do create the Extended partition, you need to use all unallocated space because if have used your 4 primary partitions it doesn't matter how much unallocated space you have, it will not be usable.

If you want a separate /home partition for each distro, install the first system with about 26GB for root, then decide on a size for /home and create a swap partition also. When that is done, use the 4th primary partition to create an Extended partition for the rest of the drive and create your logical partitions within it.

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Old 04-19-2015, 03:08 PM   #20
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Why don't you run one host distro and run the others as virtual machines?

Why are you running so many different distros on bare metal?
 
Old 04-20-2015, 06:34 AM   #21
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Your original partitioning with sda2 extended and sda1, sda3 and sda4 primary was strange. I tried to give instructions to work with that, rather than delete and reinstall everything. But if you are deleting and reinstalling, you would not want the extended in the middle.

You don't actually need any primary partitions. You can have up to three of them before the extended partition, if you want them. Then make the extended partition physically last and taking the whole rest of the disk. Then allocate whatever (more) partitions you need within the extended.
 
Old 05-02-2015, 09:18 AM   #22
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Hello,

It has ben ten plus days sice my response to the postings. I had been dual booting Manjaro and PCLinuxOS. I say had been because a mistake of mine My mistake was in deleting a Kernel, 3.14, before I had made certain that kernel 3.18 was fully activated. I was in the Synaptic Manager I had installed kernel 3.18 but had not rebooted before deleting kernel 3.14. It was at this point that I rebooted. It would not let me load as it could not find the kernel.

I could not believe the dumb mistake I had made. A mistake which prevented me from switching to Manjaro.My atttempt at installing PCLinuxOS was successful however ther arose an issue when it came to upgrading the distro. To maek a long story short.....to late. I decided to replace it and subsequently the Manjaro I had with Manjaro LXQT. Used it until ysterday when I installed Manjaro XFCE 0.8.12 which was due to my not being comfortable withn the LXQT Manjaro.

Now this time around when I was at the partitioning point, instead of dong the partition as it hnad been done before. I recalled waht was said about making the extended sda2, which at the time encompassed sda5 & sda6, to include the unallocated space. Explanations were given how to do this but I could not wrap my mind around it. I decided to make the bulk of the 320 GB Extended, 290GB, and then my root and hime fro manjaro were both logical instead of being 'primary'.

Thats the way it sits presently.
 
Old 05-02-2015, 11:11 AM   #23
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Hi.

These may contain information that is already posted here, but this is where I got a lot of help before I switched to separate tray-drawer systems, and then finally to virtual machines.

Best wishes ... cheers, makyo

http://forums.justlinux.com/forumdis...3-Installation

http://forums.justlinux.com/showthre...ional-Linux&s=

http://forums.justlinux.com/showthre...SD-and-Solaris
 
  


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