LinuxQuestions.org
Share your knowledge at the LQ Wiki.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 06-04-2007, 03:57 PM   #16
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15

Yeah... I added the more important of the two...

Anyway, It works after some playing around with different settings, so I am going to play around with it now that it works.

Now it wants to make a disklabel. The default is msdos. Do I need to change that? There is no obvious linux option.

Last edited by zephyrcat; 06-04-2007 at 03:59 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 04:10 PM   #17
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
Let it make its disklabel, that should be fine. It may confusing at first but this whole terminology dates back to pre-Linux days so it's not surprising things should have "dossy" names. The very fact that you can make only four primary partitions (or three and an extended) is another thing that dates back to those days - now we just have to live with it.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 04:25 PM   #18
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Ok. So I should make the following partitions:
- 3 primary ext3 5Gb-10Gb partitions
- 1 extended ext3 (how big?)
 
Old 06-04-2007, 04:33 PM   #19
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
I would make the first primary a swap partition - twice the size of your RAM. So 512MB RAM means a 1024MB partition, 256 RAM = 512MB swap (although it wouldn't hurt to make it three times the amount of RAM if you have only 256MB or less).
The other two primary partitions should be larger if you want to install a distribution in one single partition (7 is fine but narrow - use 10 for most - only a few may need 12 (Fedora, Sabayon).
The Extended should cover all of the remaining space - as I said, it is nothing but a container for logical paritions. You can then make more partitions inside the extended partition. Also an extended partition does not get formatted as it is only a container; the partitions that are on the inside, of course, do need to be formatted.

Last edited by jay73; 06-04-2007 at 04:35 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 04:51 PM   #20
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks for clearing that up. I have 512MB RAM in this system, so I will make it a little of one gig.

Going to make this:
-1 primary swap formatted as linux-swap (from previous posts)
-2 primary 7Gb-ish paritions (I can go ahead and put two linux distros on these, right?)
-1 extended for logical partitions

Do even distros like Xubuntu that are designed for old computers need a 7gb partition? I was thinking about giving them more like a 2gb partition.

Last edited by zephyrcat; 06-04-2007 at 04:54 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 05:11 PM   #21
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
Well, they can be smaller if you intend to use only one Desktop (only XFCE or something like FluxBox, not KDE or Gnome). But even with something like XFCE 2GB seems very little. I would suggest at least double that - there will be empty space on the / partition in that case but you need at least 1.5GB free for tmp and var to function. I suggest you use 4 to 5GB, install Ubuntu and check whether it looks OK. If you're fine, you can go one and make more partitions and do more installs. The problem is that if you make your partitions too small now, you end up having trouble later (and, of course, making them too large is a waste of space).

Last edited by jay73; 06-04-2007 at 05:13 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 05:58 PM   #22
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Ok. Thanks for all the help. Here is what my partition table looks like now:

(Sorry about the dashes.)

Type --- Format ---- Size
Primary -linux-swap -1.5GB
Primary -ext3 ------ 10GB -- Ubuntu 7.04
Primary -ext3 ------ 12GB -- Fedora 7
Extended n/a ------- rest of drive

Inside Extended:

All ---- ext3 ------ 7GB
are --- ext3 ------ 7GB
logical ext3 ------ 7GB
------- ext3 ------ 4.5GB
------- ext3 ------ 4.5GB
------- ext3 ------ 4.5GB
------- ext3 ------ 4GB

At other side of Extended:

logical fat32 10GB


If this is all good I think I am ready to start installing (I am still not really sure how I configure them so I can choose which to boot.) They are all called New Partition #x right now in Gparted. Will this name carry over to other utilities and if so is there any way to change it?

Last edited by zephyrcat; 06-04-2007 at 06:02 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 08:11 PM   #23
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
I am going to go ahead and start Ubuntu from the live cd and go through the part of the install that I know how to do. Are there any special things I need to do later in the install? Also, I am still not sure how to do the install for the next Linux distro.

Thanks so much for the help. This forum has and incredibly fast response time and all the answers I have gotten have helped a ton.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 08:15 PM   #24
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
Oops - I hope you haven't rebooted already. If they are called "new partition", you have forgotten one crucial step - clicking on "Apply"! The partitions aren't actually written to disk before you do. So if you start your installer and you can't see any partitions, at least you know why.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 08:22 PM   #25
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks! Luckily, I have not yet quit so I am doing it now.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 08:56 PM   #26
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
I'm also wondering why you formatted your last partition as fat32. Do you intend to access it from a windows system? If not, it's better to use a Linux native format such as ext3 or xfs.

If you reconsider, just right-click the partition and format to something different (and don't forget apply this time ).
 
Old 06-04-2007, 09:04 PM   #27
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
I will probley never have windows on this computer, but I know that fat32 is readable by almost everything so I figured it would be safe. I think I need to "choose" / in the Ubuntu install. Is that right?

Last edited by zephyrcat; 06-04-2007 at 09:08 PM.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 09:11 PM   #28
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 130Reputation: 130
Yes, first select the partition you are going to use, then choose "/" as its mount point - that's all.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 09:20 PM   #29
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks! I will update this when I am done or if I have any other questions.
 
Old 06-04-2007, 09:57 PM   #30
zephyrcat
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 107

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Success! I now have an installed and working Ubuntu. I will try for another OS soon, but not tonight. Could you tell me what I need to do for the second OS or point me to a guide? Thank you so much for your help.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can't boot!! Kernel Panics!! Two machines, several versions!!! WHAT AM I DOING WRONG? Czar420 Linux - Newbie 11 05-18-2007 02:03 PM
How to lilo: 2 mdk versions with dual boot? ronaldv Mandriva 4 12-06-2005 11:56 AM
Multi Boot (Red Hat 9 and 2 versions of Win XP) Slindner Linux - Newbie 1 08-30-2004 04:43 AM
Unable boot multiple kernel versions off of Redhat machine liangjz Linux - Newbie 3 03-16-2004 11:01 AM
Boot loader lilo for two Redhat versions emmanuelmathew Linux - Newbie 1 08-16-2003 06:44 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:56 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration