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Old 10-02-2011, 01:22 AM   #31
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As said before, try puppy.

How did ypu backup the files, and more important, where did you backup the files to, eq to which folder.

FreeAgentGoNext.ico is a part of the backup program you used in windows.
It's not the backup you made.

You can use gparted to shrink the partition, and create a new linux partition.
However, there is always a chance things go badly wrong, so you should backup your data on the usb before proceeding.

If you can backup /home, and reinstall, I would suggest to create separate partition for /home, so you can reuse it in case you need to reinstall again in the future.

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Hello:



So is puppy a back up tool, not another Linux Distro ?
Because my notebook (It is technically an ACER netbook) won't like anything but ubuntu 10.10 notebook edition. I couldn't install 10.04 notebook edition or Debian on it.
I tried many different distros, it didn't allow it.
Ubuntu 10.10 notebook edition was the only one I succeeded to install on it. The machine was a gift from a friend and had originally Win XP on it.

So are you suggesting that I install puppy on my External USB Hard Drive and then try to back up my /Home on the notebook to the External USB Hard Drive ?

Ok. I am downloading puppy on my External HD now. I will report back to you what happens tomorrow.

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Old 10-02-2011, 01:45 AM   #32
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But question remains for me, how would I transfer my /Home folder to my USB External HD so that I can rebuild my system
When you view partitions using live-cd are you able to distinguish which is your home partition?
Also your system, like mines has some additional partitions.

Are you replacing the drive or just trying to backup data?
On my latest install I deleted all of my partitions except for my home, installed system, mounted old home & transfered all data, deleted old home then resized the new to utilize whole disk.
 
Old 10-02-2011, 03:55 AM   #33
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So are you suggesting that I install puppy on my External USB Hard Drive and then try to back up my /Home on the notebook to the External USB Hard Drive ?
No, download the puppy iso, burn it to CD, and boot from the CD
It will load linux into RAM, and you can access all partitions from your HD, and from any attached drive.
Since puppy has NTFS support, you can copy the files.

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Old 10-02-2011, 08:11 AM   #34
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I suspect that I would only confuse you more by trying to explain the setup and use of Samba or NFS for copying your data between your desktop and laptop. I would cross this idea off the list for now. However, after you've rebuilt your laptop's Ubuntu system you might want to check out the Ubuntu Community NFSv4 how-to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto.

Repo is suggesting that you download, burn and boot from a Puppy Linux Live CD. He states it has NTFS support and thus you should be able to copy your /home folder from within the Puppy Linux environment. However, Yancek has reservations about writing to a NTFS partition from Linux. I personally haven't tried writing to a NTFS partition from Linux so, I do not know the details about potential problems. Repo is pretty confident the Puppy Linux option will work without any problems. If you don't want to risk the NTFS partition on your external USB HD and the data on it then consider the following:

I noticed in one of your early posts that you have several Linux partitions on your laptop hard drive, with enough available space to hold your /home folder (272M). Obviously you wouldn't want to copy your /home folder to a partition that would get wiped out by a fresh install. See your df -h snippet below:

Code:
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda11             13G  272M   12G   3% /media/dcfafdf7-abd7-4bd0-9fbd-94eac897da25
/dev/sda5             7.4G  659M  6.4G  10% /media/07c9d8a8-7822-4387-9c06-5fbf476716a8
/dev/sda6             3.7G  593M  3.0G  17% /media/0f01a0ed-78ad-4c75-8f00-b08126f56640
/dev/sda7             3.7G   72M  3.5G   3% /media/ac23e1a9-f23b-4455-969d-4aaadd61455a
/dev/sda8             3.7G  2.1G  1.5G  59% /media/5be965ac-feb2-4f0f-be42-d9f760573fe3
/dev/sda9             4.6G  504K  4.4G   1% /media/f20daefd-79f2-4ac3-a478-51bb3ff4c6f6
/dev/sda11             13G  272M   12G   3% /mnt/sda11
Do you really need to format sda5, sda6, sda7, sda8, and sda9 in an Ubuntu re-install?

Lastly, a cheap alternative (and my personal preference in this case) would be to buy a 4GB or 8GB USB key. A USB Key is also known as a USB stick, a USB jump drive, and a USB thumb drive. The local drug store a block away from my apt. sells them for $10 (4GB) and $20 (8GB). The USB key will have a FAT32 partition. You can copy your /home folder to a USB key at the command line using tar or the cp command. Its simple, no NTFS, no risks, relatively cheap, readable and writable from Linux and Windows, and transportable.
 
Old 10-02-2011, 10:20 AM   #35
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But how would I make small partition on my USB External HD just for the /Home folder which I need to back up, without screwing the rest of my personal files that I have on it?
Where are these personal files? What is the "it" you are referring to? Do you have personal files on the USB External HD or are you referring to personal files on your /home partition on the notebook?

You can create a partition on your External HD using GParted from the Ubuntu Live CD. You should have a System tab on the Desktop and clicking it should give you an option to select GParted in the drop down menu. You should be able to select sdb1 and shrink it to give you space to create another partition. Before doing anything, I would suggest you post back as to whether you have any data on the External HD or whether you are referring to your internal /home directorys' personal file.
 
Old 10-02-2011, 11:40 AM   #36
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When you view partitions using live-cd are you able to distinguish which is your home partition?
Also your system, like mines has some additional partitions.

Are you replacing the drive or just trying to backup data?
On my latest install I deleted all of my partitions except for my home, installed system, mounted old home & transfered all data, deleted old home then resized the new to utilize whole disk.


Yes, Because when I click on the left pane on any partitiion, it shows what is inside each.
I am trying to just back up my /Home folder to somewhere and then re-build my sytem.


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Old 10-02-2011, 12:38 PM   #37
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No, download the puppy iso, burn it to CD, and boot from the CD
It will load linux into RAM, and you can access all partitions from your HD, and from any attached drive.
Since puppy has NTFS support, you can copy the files.

Kind regards


OK, I downloaded and burned the puppy on a CD-RW but I don't know how to access the notebook's setup up to change the boot sequence now.
 
Old 10-02-2011, 12:39 PM   #38
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Take a look in the manual, or search using gopgle.
In general you need to press f2 or f12 or F... during boot.

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Old 10-02-2011, 12:57 PM   #39
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Take a look in the manual, or search using gopgle.
In general you need to press f2 or f12 or F... during boot.

Kind regards


OK, It is F2, and the boot sequence was already DVD or CD-R.(correct one for my purpose)
And I think I burned the CD-RW correctly, however when I put the CD-RW in the laptop and boot from it, nothing happens.
The same old boot menu appears and gets stuck again.
It ignores the puppy there in the DVD Drive.



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And I think I burned the CD-RW correctly,
How did you burn the cd?
Did you burned the iso as iso?

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Old 10-02-2011, 01:09 PM   #41
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How did you burn the cd?
Did you burned the iso as iso?

Kind regards

I had saved the iso on the External HD.
So I opened it and then saved it to the CD-RW. Then I burned it to the CD-RW.

Ok. I erased the file and am doing it again.
So on the puppy download page that put a link for it: "Download version 5.2.8 from ibiblio.org: Get lupu-528.iso"
I am saving the .iso file to the CD-RW.

Am I doing it right?


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Old 10-02-2011, 01:19 PM   #42
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In the burning software there should be an option to burn an iso or image.
You can't just copy the file to CD.


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Old 10-02-2011, 01:28 PM   #43
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In the burning software there should be an option to burn an iso or image.
You can't just copy the file to CD.


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It is a two stage process. First it copied the files to the CD-RW.
Now is wrting the files to the CD-RW.


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You need to burn the iso as an image, not copy the files.

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Old 10-02-2011, 01:46 PM   #45
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You need to burn the iso as an image, not copy the files.

Kind regards


Here is what I am doing.


On your link page, here "Download version 5.2.8 from ibiblio.org: Get lupu-528.iso"

I double click on this:



Then I see File Download box appear, exactly like this:

Code:
Do you want to open or save this file?


Name:   Lup-528.iso 

Type:   iso_auto_file, 129MB 

From:   distro.ibiblio.org

   
    Open        Save        Cancel
This is how it looks like. Tell me what I am supposed to do.

Of course I am doing all this on my Win XP machine, which is a Dell Dimension 2400 series.

I can't burn the CD-RW on the linux laptop, since it already has the ubuntu 10.10 live CD on it.


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