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Old 08-12-2005, 07:25 PM   #1
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how do i dual boot,2 HD's


hi all

i have windows xp installed right now on a 40 gig HD.
i have spare HD, 30gig formatted and rdy. i would like to put suse(Linux) on.

but i want a dual boot system,xp on 1st drive40 gig(xp is on already) and suse on 2nd drive30 gig.

how do i accomplish this?

suggestions needed

ty all,
 
Old 08-12-2005, 07:39 PM   #2
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Install SuSE on /dev/hdb and let it install grub on the MBR
 
Old 08-12-2005, 07:47 PM   #3
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there's a number of ways to do it, and there's plenty webpages out there dealing with it.

I would go for grub. it's the most versatile boot manager. If it's a recent version of Suse it may even try to install grub for you.

It sounds as if you haven't even got suse installed yet.

Also read up about the MBR, Master boot record. The is the first 512bytes (that's all!) of the frst harddisk where grub (or part of it) will need to go.

You'll notice I'm not giving you a personalised, exact, step by step guide to accomplishing what you want. And you may complain. But I've already written more in my answer than you have in your question. In any case, this all done by clues, trial and error and google.

A bit like life really. Its no mere coincidence that "linux" and "life" share their first two letters :-D

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Old 08-12-2005, 08:19 PM   #4
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as andrew said, but make sure grub get's installed on the mbr of /dev/hda not /dev/hdb.
 
Old 08-12-2005, 10:27 PM   #5
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k

ive been reading and most recommend that linux be the #1 drive as master
and xp be #2 drive as slave.


now this brings me to a brick wall because as i mentioned i have xp already on 1 of the drives and the jumper pins are (cable select on this xp already loaded drive)

so what do i do with the jumper pins with the new drive i want suse on? put a slave?master?

i also read linux cant tell cable select(for jumper pin).

i really dont feel like reformatting xp drive just cause jumper pins are at cable select.
new drive jumper pin settings are 16 heads (master)was how it came.
guide me ,, thanks all

ps. and this hitachi drive i wanna use for suse is driving me up the wall you can have (16 heads), (15 heads), (32gb clip), (auto spin disable)and for this 4 settings i can put jumper at master, slave, cable select, or forcedev1 present its a hitache drive,,o man. help
as it came was 16 heads,master for the jumper pins..
 
Old 08-12-2005, 10:34 PM   #6
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it's a recommendation, NOT an absolute must
 
Old 08-12-2005, 10:38 PM   #7
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so both drives can be on cable select?
 
Old 08-12-2005, 10:40 PM   #8
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just stick the 30gb in as secondary master, slap the suse disc into the cdrom/dvd drive and install.
just make sure that when it comes time to partition your drive you select to manually partition.
and set /dev/hdb to be your root(/) partition.
 
Old 08-12-2005, 10:43 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonestar_1
so both drives can be on cable select?
only if the suse drive is connected to the second ide bus. otherwise put the jumper on slave.

if that doesn't work, just play around with the jumpers on both drives until the bios sees them both and the 40gb is still primary master.

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Old 08-13-2005, 01:31 AM   #10
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well i left jumper pins on xp HD alone(cable select)

put the other HD pins to slave

during install for suse made sure it chose the new HD for partition.
installed good.

i can select OS(xp or suse) at startup.
but i cant connect to internet on that pc with suse only with xp ,lol.


and is it normal for when u log off suse for it NOT to turn pc completly off?
 
Old 08-13-2005, 02:13 AM   #11
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Sorry to chime in after the fact on this one, but (for future information) the way I learned it (and the way it says in the Computer Repair Book I have) is that Cable Select is a replacement for the Master/Slave method. Taking only the Primary IDE channel (there are two channels, these are the connectors that are on the motherboard, NOT on the cable) into consideration, you should either have one hard drive set to Master, and one set to Slave, OR you should have BOTH drives set to Cable Select. In the case of Cable Select, the master drive goes on the top (black) connector, the slave drive goes on the middle (grey) connector, and the bottom (blue) plugs into your mobo. The Secondary IDE channel functions the same exact way.

There are exceptions though. On the first of the Cable Select systems (before it standardized with ATA-5) the middle connector was Master, and the top was Slave.

Cable select must be supported by your mobo, controller chip, and BIOS in order to use it though. Also, you must have a Cable Select Cable (the colors are a good give-a-way, but if there are no colors then you must look for pin 28 being disabled or it must be a 80 conductor (40-pin) cable for UDMA-3 and higher).

However, lonestar, if you have it working..... to hell with *proper* setup.
 
Old 08-13-2005, 11:29 AM   #12
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thanks for the info, Volvogga!

how do you connect to the internet cable or adsl? and..umm...log off isn't the same as shutdown
 
Old 08-13-2005, 11:33 AM   #13
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thanks for the info, Volvogga!

how do you connect to the internet cable or adsl? and..umm...log off isn't the same as shutdown
We need to know more about your setup, are you using a router/connecting via Ethernet for example? If so, it shouldn't be that difficult.

No, logging off isn't the same as shutting down. When you log off, well, you'll just see a login screen. Any servers you have running will probably still be running. Shutting down is switching the machine off.
 
Old 08-13-2005, 01:06 PM   #14
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good afternoon all

this is my second system it's a

specs are windows xp installed right now (cable select) on a 40 gigHD
suse on 30 gig HD(slave)

p4 3.2C HT
p4c800-e deluxe mobo
1 gig ram
ati 9800 pro
lg dvd ram

now this mobo has onboard network card which im using
and it does connect to internet when i boot up with xp

but now that i have dual boot with suse and suse recognises the onboard network card but
it will not connect to the internet.

in SUSE when i go into YaST and into the network car configuration i see that it has detected
what i think its the onboard network card. name is ASUSTek 82547EI gigabit ethernet controller(LOM)
configured with DCHP.

i have dsl modem connected to D-LINK router 4 Port, (PC1) with suse connects to internet,
PC2 with windows ME connects to internet, and now this PC3 with dual boot(system specs above)WILL NOT
connect to internet with SUSE ,however it works fine with xp.

and in SUSE when i log out it gives me the option to turn system off , when i click on turn system off , it does its thing and says system is down , i manually have to press off button on front panel of PC case to cut off power.
 
Old 08-13-2005, 05:15 PM   #15
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As far as the power button goes, I have the same problem with FC3. I have been told that this is a relatively common problem, and it is a simple matter of the kernel or modules not interacting perfectly with your hardware. If you google the problem, there seem to be some workarounds out there. I haven't tried any of them, mainly because the problem is not that big a deal to me. Also, I have read that more often than not, the problem can be fixed by simply upgrading the kernel (another thing I have not done due to a slow internet connection).

As for your internet problem, I am not very good at networking, but I did a search on the model number you provided for your network card, and it came back with a site talking about an entire motherboard. This is the site I found that speaks of this mobo being compatible with Linux...

http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_ap1720-e1.html

As you can see, it has your same network card. If you look towards the bottom of the page, it has a note that says that special drivers were needed to activate the network card. So it could be that Yast sees the network card, but doesn't have a driver for it as of yet. Intel provides the driver listed on that site (which surprised me). You can get it here...

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...ileName=e1000-

It should be the first one on the list, but you can read the model numbers for each file to find the one you need.

Keep at it, and good luck.
 
  


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