well that got me another step closer now it freezes at
device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioct1 (2005-01-12) initialised : firstname.lastname@example.org
I assume this is the wireless card, but I do not know. I did install mandrake without a catch up like this but could not get ndiswrapper to work for the driver. so I uninstalled it and tried to redo fc4 and this is where I am stuck now any other advice would be great. I really would prefer fc4 but if I can't get it, suggestions on another release would be well recieved. thanks again for all the help.