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Old 03-26-2012, 12:38 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Help with DEBIAN please!!!!


I don't know what is wrong with the developers at Debian, okay but I got a KDE version of Squeeze just installed fine. But where in the heck is anything to work with here?? There is no Synaptic, no Gdebi, no apt-get, no aptitude? How can you do anything with nothing? This is why I never fool with Debian but to be fair I thought I'd try. So can anyone asist me with getting something going here? Any help via debian's site brings me nothing as well!! Woohoo!
 
Old 03-26-2012, 01:50 AM   #2
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Hello,

Why would a Debian version using KDE not have apt-get? I'm not a KDE user myself but it's just a desktop environment like all the others with its own tools and way of working. If you don't like their way or don't want to invest time to get to know the tools available you can always turn back to what you know. When you're in doubt you can always revert to using the console. Open a terminal and type:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
as root or in combination with sudo.

Kind regards,

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Old 03-26-2012, 02:53 AM   #3
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Erictra is right, but unlike him i am a kde user, and have used Debian with only kde; and i assure you, there's apt. Check your sources.list file if you installed from a cd/dvd. I didn't activate a network on install from my dvd, so in result i had to edit my souces.list file before i could install anything off the internet because no mirror was selected.
by the way, Debian's really not hard; i think you've just hit a stumbling block and concluded everything will be like that. It won't be.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 04:38 AM   #4
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Even the most basic install option (using debootstrap) will still install apt-get to the system. It is nearly impossible to have Debian with without apt-get. And if you have apt-get it is not hard to get any software on the system that is in the Debian repositories.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 09:26 AM   #5
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apt-get and probably aptitude are both installed by default.

Open a terminal or konsole and do:
su hit enter
password type in root password hit enter
now you should be at a #
Code:
apt-get update && apt-get install synaptic gdebi-kde
Sounds like #1 you have no patience, one of the *buntu distros might be a better choice
#2 or sounds like you need to take the time to actually READ and Learn
some helpful links to get you started:

# The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ - Basics of the Debian package management system - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.html
# Newbiedoc : http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawik..._documentation
# Apt-Pinning for Beginners - http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
# aptitude user's manual - http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/...titude/doc/en/
# Apt - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/Apt
# Aptitude - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
# SourcesList - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
# Search Debian -- Packages - http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
# APT and Dpkg Quick Reference Sheet - http://www.cyberciti.biz/ref/apt-dpkg-ref.html
# Grokking Debian GNU/Linux - https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...nu-linux-3073/
 
Old 03-26-2012, 07:32 PM   #6
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No Aptitude?
Often, Synaptic is not installed, but Aptitude is. It is part of the base system. Debian without apt-get is like a river without water. Open a terminal and
Code:
aptitude install synaptic
You now have Aptitude's GUI and can easily install Gdebi and whatever else you want. You were trying to use apt-get with the terminal, yes?

Last edited by Randicus Draco Albus; 03-26-2012 at 07:34 PM.
 
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Old 03-26-2012, 07:56 PM   #7
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No Aptitude?
Often, Synaptic is not installed, but Aptitude is. It is part of the base system. Debian without apt-get is like a river without water. Open a terminal and
Code:
aptitude install synaptic
You now have Aptitude's GUI and can easily install Gdebi and whatever else you want. You were trying to use apt-get with the terminal, yes?
Lets not confuse the guy. Aptitude does have a gui but it isn't synaptic. Aptitude is a terminal program and if you want its gui you will need to install aptitude-gtk which would install a few Gnome dependencies.

I have to admit that I would know my way around KDE either so I'm watching this thread.
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:30 AM   #8
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Lets not confuse the guy. .. Aptitude is a terminal program and if you want its gui you will need to install aptitude-gtk which would install a few Gnome dependencies.
Is it confusing?

1) I do not see why installing Synaptic with KDE should be a problem, but if it is, I would like to know why for my own edification.

2) The OP wants Synaptic, so it is either install it with Gnome dependencies or use Gnome. If he does not want to mix Gnome packages with KDE, he should either not install Synaptic and familiarise himself with KDE or stick with what he is familiar with, Gnome.

3) As craigevil pointed out, the OP's knowledge level seems to require an injection of research. His Debian installation does not have Aptitude and apt-get functions? I would say sticking with Gnome is the OP's best choice, until he learns a little about Debian.
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:52 AM   #9
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Is it confusing?

1) I do not see why installing Synaptic with KDE should be a problem, but if it is, I would like to know why for my own edification.
1.Read the post I referred to, it infers Aptitude has a GUI called Synaptic, it does have a GUI but it isn't synaptic. Synaptic is a GUI for apt not aptitude. Aptitude does have a gui and it is aptitude-gtk. We don't want the OP coming back in 10 years arguing he is right because someone on LQ told it so it must be true.

Sorry if my little correction caused any problem.
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:04 AM   #10
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I can accept that, thanks.

However, my point is still valid. A Debian installation will have Aptitude and apt-get. So it is easy to install Synaptic in order to have a GUI. In my opinion, for what it is worth, for the OP's experience level, apt-get is probably better to use, so Synaptic is a good idea. If that means abandoning KDE, if only temporarily, it should be considered.

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Old 03-27-2012, 01:13 AM   #11
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I can accept that, thanks.

However, my point is still valid. A Debian installation will have Aptitude and apt-get. So it is easy to install Synaptic in order to have a GUI. In my opinion, for what it is worth, for the OP's experience level, apt-get is probably better to use, so Synaptic is a good idea. If that means abandoning KDE, if only temporarily, it should be considered.
I agree, I like synaptic.
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:36 AM   #12
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This thread is getting off the point. I'd like to hear from the OP; (who's listed Gentoo as one of the distributions they use, i'd like to point out. If they can handle Gentoo, i'd think they could work Debian out.)
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:43 AM   #13
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This thread is getting off the point. I'd like to hear from the OP; (who's listed Gentoo as one of the distributions they use, i'd like to point out. If they can handle Gentoo, i'd think they could work Debian out.)
Hi,

You're quite right, if they can handle Gentoo they should be able to work out small issues like this in Debian with KDE. I'm getting more and more the impression that the OP was only venting / flaming about not liking KDE since he/she hasn't come back yet with feedback.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:08 AM   #14
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This thread is getting off the point.
If clarifying something that was posted to help the OP work with his/her system is getting of topic then LQ has bigger issues than this thread.
 
Old 03-27-2012, 02:28 AM   #15
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Synaptic has gtk depends not Gnome. It is one of the first things I install. It works just fine in kde.
aptitude-gtk is not in Stable not even sure if is in Testing, probably is by now.
 
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