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Old 03-10-2012, 07:55 PM   #1
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Help with building a server with Oracle Linux 6.2


Folks,
I am very new to building servers but looking at this forum, I am getting some confidence that I have help out here. After several googling and information overload, I got this site where I am presenting my request.

- I purchased an used dell server with 8GB ram and 146Gig harddrive.
- I booted the server with Oracle Linux Server 6.2 CD and stepped thru the instructions and completed the installation. I am in the root and able to do some basic commands.
- I am not sure about the following:
1. I have the Oracle db software downloaded but how do I get it over (copy it over either via CD/DVD or USB or Online)to the server and it?

2. How can I connect to the server via putty from my desktop. (I don't know if I configured correctly while I installed the Linux).
Thx
 
Old 03-10-2012, 10:27 PM   #2
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Oracle Linux Server 6.2
well if you are going to use NON-FREE operating system then the fist step would be to buy a support contract
http://www.oracle.com/us/technologie...ort/index.html
or

use a free OS
like 'CentOS 6.2' or 'ScientificLinux 6.2'
 
Old 03-10-2012, 10:48 PM   #3
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Um yeah, I wouldn't use anything from Oracle (other than VirtualBox). For servers in general, I recommend Debian and Arch Linux (@John VV: your suggestions are good too). As for the database part, do you really need Oracle DB? MySQL works good enough for me, and a LOT of web servers are using it.

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Old 03-10-2012, 10:55 PM   #4
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Thank you both!
I am only looking for a free version at this point.
1. As I mentioned that I have already installed Oracle Linux 6.2, if I have to install either of the other two linux versions you have recommended (Dubian / scientific..) can you point me to or how I will uninstall the current one and proceed.

2. MySQL - I am not aware of it. I would be fine with that as long as I am able to expand to install other ETL/Informatica applications etc on top of it.

I like the code block in one of your signature "Try try again.."
Thx
 
Old 03-10-2012, 11:04 PM   #5
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Also, my main question of how I connect to the server installing the OS using putty type of interface from any machine.
Guys - you seem to be experts - please bear with me and step down to my basic level and give me some step by step instructions - APPRECIATE IT.

A really stupid question: How do I copy the oracle or mysql software bundle to the server. I don't how to read the files from DVD or USB in the server from Linux.

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Old 03-11-2012, 04:57 AM   #6
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Look at the ip address of your server using
Code:
 ifconfig -a
on your servers shell. Use this ip address and insert it into the putty connection window.

Not sure which Oracle rdbms version is actual supported on Oracle Linux 6.2. I am sure 10g is actUal not. To install Oracle database software on various Linux derivates take a look at puschitz website. There are detailed information on how to do this.

P.S. If someone asks for information on Oracle installation, mostly mysql is not the option he is looking for

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Old 03-11-2012, 09:31 AM   #7
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P.S. If someone asks for information on Oracle installation, mostly mysql is not the option he is looking for
Sorry about that. If the OP really needs to set up Oracle DB, then Oracle Linux may be the best OS to run it on.

@dolphins: Assuming the server has USB ports, you could copy the Oracle database software to a flash drive and install from that. It would also help if you provided more details about your server, such as the make and model. Unfortunately, this is where I have to bail out as Oracle's stuff is highly proprietary. If you want to use their stuff, please consult their documentation.

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Old 03-11-2012, 11:20 AM   #8
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Thanks again all of you and helping me ask the right questions.

More details in response to your questions/suggestions:
1. Server hardware: Dell Poweredge 2850 Server 2X 2.8Ghz 8GB 6X 146GB Raid has DVD drive, USB slot. I know that the DVD works as I was able to boot with Oracle Linux 6.2 and install the same. I know that the USB also works as I am able to connect the wireless mouse.

2. Copying the oracle (evaluation) software from DVD or USB from the Linus server root user: How do I point to any of these drives and do a "ls" or "cp"

3. I tried the ifconfig -a and I have a doubt if the network configuration is done correctly This is what I get for ifconfig -a command:
eth0
Link encap: Ethernet Hwaddr 00:13:72:55:86:C6
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric:1
RX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 frame: 0
TX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 carrier: 0
Collisions: 0 txqueuelen = 1000
Rx bytes: 0 (0.0.b)Tx bytes:0 (0.0.b)

eth1
Link encap: Ethernet Hwaddr 00:13:72:55:86:C7
BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric:1
RX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 frame: 0
TX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 carrier: 0
Collisions: 0 txqueuelen = 1000
Rx bytes: 0 (0.0.b)Tx bytes:0 (0.0.b)

lo
Link encap: Local Loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask: 255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 frame: 0
TX Packets: 0 Errors: 0 Dropped: 0 Overruns: 0 carrier: 0
Collisions: 0 txqueuelen = 1000
Rx bytes: 0 (0.0.b)Tx bytes:0 (0.0.b)

I used 127.0.0.1 in putty but doesn't let me login. Also, FYI - I have connected the internet cable to the RJ-45 jack on the server.

4. Oracle version: 11g is what I am trying to install.

I can run any other commands and server and provide the details. I also created the DBA group and oracle user in the DBA group. My immediate requirements are to how to get the oracle software copied from the dvd/usb to the server and connect via putty.

Thanks a BUNCH!!!!
 
Old 03-11-2012, 01:55 PM   #9
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Uuuh, 127.0.0.1 is the localhost. This is a special address used for loopback adapter. This address exist on every host using tcpip and cannot be used for ans thing than local connection. You should configure the server with a static ipaddress from your network. Definitely you should read the documentation on how to do this.

After you have configured your ip address correctly you can cnonnect via putty, and install oracle software from cd.Coracle requires a running xserver to get the setup running. You should read the link provided to puschitz website upper in the thread. This will give you a lot of informatin what to do and how to do. Oracle is very complex rdbms and is mostly not comparable to other database software, so it requires a lot of specific know how to configure this database correctly to get a high performing database config.
 
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:08 PM   #10
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Thanks again all of you and helping me ask the right questions.

More details in response to your questions/suggestions:
1. Server hardware: Dell Poweredge 2850 Server 2X 2.8Ghz 8GB 6X 146GB Raid has DVD drive, USB slot. I know that the DVD works as I was able to boot with Oracle Linux 6.2 and install the same. I know that the USB also works as I am able to connect the wireless mouse.

2. Copying the oracle (evaluation) software from DVD or USB from the Linus server root user: How do I point to any of these drives and do a "ls" or "cp"

3. I tried the ifconfig -a and I have a doubt if the network configuration is done correctly This is what I get for ifconfig -a command:
I used 127.0.0.1 in putty but doesn't let me login. Also, FYI - I have connected the internet cable to the RJ-45 jack on the server.

4. Oracle version: 11g is what I am trying to install.

I can run any other commands and server and provide the details. I also created the DBA group and oracle user in the DBA group. My immediate requirements are to how to get the oracle software copied from the dvd/usb to the server and connect via putty.
Thanks a BUNCH!!!!
Honestly, based on your questions and what you've posted thus far, if your goal is to run an Oracle server, and to use it with ETL/Informatica applications, you're in over your head.

Not being insulting, but it would be far faster (AND give you better results), if you were to hire a consultant to perform this installation/configuration for you, and also for you to PAY FOR the commercial software you're using. Oracle 11G is not free, nor is their OS. If you pay for it, you can access their knowledgebase, and call their tech-support people, who could give you answers and walk you through things, step by step. A consultant would be able to accomplish what you're after in a day at most, if not less. If you're working for a company, and have a real need for such things, spend the money and do it right.
 
Old 03-11-2012, 10:50 PM   #11
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Thanks for your inputs and guidance @mesiol, @PhoenixAndThor and @John VV and @TBOne.
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@TBOne - Just to clarify, I am not doing this for commercial purpose but to learn and be upto speed with Linux and allied apps. I have been using UNIX and Oracle and other tools like ETL from a programmer or user perspective but haven't done the installation pieces - that's why I am struggling a bit. Your response is not insulting but I am not looking to buy (can't afford for my personal learning) commercial software and hire consultants for installation. Thank you for your honest response.

May be I don't need a server to accomplish what I am trying to do - may be will try a simple home version on the desktop? Let me now take all this feedback and rework my plan. I am sure, I will come back with "smarter" questions shortly...

Aside, What I feel from the forums and the huge amount of information available online on these topics especially Linux is that a structure may be lacking for novice.. Once I am successful, I plan on writing a blog with a structure. If anyone knows of any such initiative already in place, please direct me..

Thanks again..
BTW, I don't find "add to reputation"
 
Old 03-12-2012, 01:27 AM   #12
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Well, if you haven't paid for that copy of Oracle Linux 6.2, then you won't get any updates/support from Oracle.
For personal research that may not matter, but if it does, use Centos 6.2 or Scientific Linux 6.2
Both free re-builds of RHEL, with updates avail, but not support.
You may be able to get a free version of Oracle for educational/personal dev usage, I believe.
 
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Well, if you haven't paid for that copy of Oracle Linux 6.2, then you won't get any updates/support from Oracle.
For personal research that may not matter, but if it does, use Centos 6.2 or Scientific Linux 6.2
Both free re-builds of RHEL, with updates avail, but not support.
You may be able to get a free version of Oracle for educational/personal dev usage, I believe.
Indeed, and that's the route I'd go. CentOS and a copy of Oracle, which can be used for personal use freely.
 
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:18 AM   #14
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Point taken - Thx for your guidance.
Let me go down that path. Can I get Centos running parallely on my Windows 7 desktop? If yes, I won't bother about installing on a server h/w etc..appreciate if you could point me to documentation or tutorials..
 
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Well, you can

1. dual boot; ie use same disks, but re-partitioned and only one OS at a time is running
2. use a VM of some kind.

Best to google both options and have a think.
 
  


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