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Old 12-23-2003, 07:16 AM   #1
Beavix
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Question Help switching from Windows


I am a Linux newbie who wants to switch from Windows. I consider myself as having medium knowledge working with computers and hacking through various settings of Windows, so I can't be "scared" by anything new. I installed RedHat9 on one of my computers. After 2 weeks of playing with it I have the feeling that either I am not doing something right or this operating system does not have yet a fully functional GUI. I am sure that under the GUI (RH)Linux has a great power... but for someone like me who doesn't want to mess around too much with the command line, this OS looks unfinished and unstable.

For example I noticed some sort of erratic behaviour of the interface. Here are some examples: sometimes double-clicking on a known file (JPG for example) does not have any effect, although 5 minutes ago it worked. Sometimes the Delete key works, sometimes it don't (for deleting files). From a usability point of view the OS is a disaster: looks like every application has it's own way of rendering dialog boxes, menus and file browsing menus. Take a look at how "Save" dialog box looks in Mozilla and in Gimp. Isn't there a way to make all the applications look like the OS theme? Or at least to force them showing the dialog boxes in a standardized way? I thought Windows had troubles with this, but I see Linux has a long way to go. I don't even try to compare both with OS X.

I also had several applications crashing on Linux, being unable to exit properly or just stubbornly not responding. I should mention that the same computer had XP working before without problems and Linux installation went flawlessly.

Is there a better Linux OS or they all behave like this? I was thinking of trying Suse Linux... is this any better that RH?

Thanks!
 
Old 12-23-2003, 07:27 AM   #2
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I have just switced from Mandrake 9.2 to Red Hat 9 on recommendation of a friend. Must say that Mandrake worked fine for me and Red Hat seems to do so too, although I haven't fully configured it yet. Maybe you should consider reinstalling RH, as something might have gone wrong that is causing your system to behave so odd.
 
Old 12-23-2003, 07:53 AM   #3
ballabh
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well iNFERiON is right, probably you have something wrong on your machine,
is use win xp and linux on same machine, well you might find the gui a bit different, but linux is rock stable, even when compared to win XP, you can customize linux to the last detail, and my linux never crashed since version 6.0 when i started using it (beleve me not even once !) so you might want to reconsider the type of install to(i hope you din't do a partition less install).
as i work in tech support for a win based programs, i can promise you windows is 10 times more crappier !
 
Old 12-23-2003, 10:04 AM   #4
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well,your hacking job in windows system shouldn't make you feel so proud no offence ya

you can try other distros like maybe slackware. but using linux by totally depends on it's GUI is making you a wiseacre. like you said don't know how to exit the process, like you said doblle clicking what and what.

try to understand it first before you believe what you think you should believe, at least for linux. again no offence
 
Old 12-23-2003, 01:10 PM   #5
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you can try other distros like maybe slackware. but using linux by totally depends on it's GUI is making you a wiseacre. like you said don't know how to exit the process, like you said doblle clicking what and what. try to understand it first before you believe what you think you should believe, at least for linux. again no offence
Yeah I know how to kill an application, I know how to configure samba and other servers, I think I had more luck installing Linux successfully than many other people in this forums. But as much as I like learning new things, especially computer-wise, I need something who just runs flawlesly. And frankly I spent much more time hacking into Linux than into Windoze. I need a OS who can help me be productive at my workplace. At home I enjoy discovering new things in Linux.
 
Old 12-23-2003, 01:37 PM   #6
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Desktop Linux is still catching up to Windows. You can either accept that it is essentially still in beta and use it anyway, help out with development, or leave it and try again later.
 
Old 12-23-2003, 02:06 PM   #7
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i started with redhat cause i heard it was stable and easy to use...i use suse now, cause for me redhat was a nightmare. being a total newbie to linux, tho, i was determined to learn something, so i snagged a copy of knoppix and played with it until i sort of knew what i was doing, then picked up a copy of suse cause i heard it was more user friendly that redhat, and i'm totally happy with suse. maybe one day, when i know a little more, i'll do slackware...but for now, i'm happy with suse. linux isn't windows...and i find i have to "unlearn" a lot of windows stuff to get comfy with linux...and so far it's working so yeah, my advice, check out maybe suse or mandrake or even knoppix...for me, suse worked right outta the box...very few hassles...
 
Old 12-23-2003, 02:24 PM   #8
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Why do most newbies go for redhat ????
redhat doesnt have mp3 support by default, no good user interface and lots of cons for newbies.
But still newbies go for redhat !
Is it because they hear only abt redhat or something ? Is redhat the name of a GOD or something somewhere ???
(i think mandrake would be a good choice for NEWBIES since it has all that good looking desktop and mp3 support, lots of good package collection)
 
Old 12-23-2003, 02:48 PM   #9
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Red Hat is a very good choice for newbies, as it's easy to use and well known.
 
Old 12-23-2003, 03:34 PM   #10
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cause its the most user friendly GUI
i now use Mandrake but i always wanted redhat b4
 
Old 12-23-2003, 05:39 PM   #11
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Most start with Redhat because of the name. I think a lot of people new to Linux think Linux = Red Hat. I started with Redhat back with 6.2 because it was it had the easiest install of those I tried. I think Red Hat still has one of the easiest installs and I have to agree that it does have a very user freindly gui, everything a Windows to Linux user needs.

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Old 12-24-2003, 07:38 AM   #12
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I read an interview with someone from Redhat who said many people are beginning to view Redhat as being the "Microsoft of Linux". Probably that's the reason why most of us are starting our Linux journey with Redhat. I installed Redhat from free CDs offered by a big computer magazine (I haven't seen any other distribution offered so far). If someone goes to Suse website sees he has to pay to get Suse (even though now I discovered there is a free FTP version as well). In my company the network administrator is a Redhat fan. Everywhere I hear mostly Redhat, not Slackware, Mandrake or other.

I asked a Linux specialist and he recommended Redhat because it is easier to install and configure. That's why Redhat is so popular and I'm afraid it IS going to become some sort of a "Microsoft of Linux" after all.
 
  


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