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Old 03-03-2014, 07:52 PM   #1
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Hello everyone I am very new to Linux and I'm also in school for Linux systems. But I was messing around with the terminal and I entered the command rpm -qf /bin/ls I got this back coreutils-6.9-9.fc8, coreutils-6.9-19.fc8. Can anyone tell me what I did and how to undo it? Or if I messed up my system?

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Old 03-03-2014, 08:03 PM   #2
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The command $ rpm -qf /bin/ls
.. means that you are asking which package, the file 'ls' origins from.
.. You got the right reply from 'rpm -qf /bin/ls' : core-utils.

Query commands are harmless, of course.

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Old 03-03-2014, 08:58 PM   #3
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fc8 ??????
you are aware that Fedora 8 is now 12 versions and 5 YEARS out of date
it went End Of Life back in January of 2009
OVER 5 YEARS AGO
it has not had any security updates in over 5 years

the current firefox 27 can not even run on it
nor can you even install the current flash or java

you have to use firefox2 ( maybe firefox 3 with some hacking)

INSTALL fedora 20 ASAP!!!!!!!
 
Old 03-03-2014, 09:15 PM   #4
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And please do use descriptive titles for your future support requests. Read this - read all of it, it is no joke.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 06:41 AM   #5
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Thank you knudfl for the help I do feel better knowing I didn't mess up anything on my system. John VV I have Fedora 8 only because it came with my school book and I needed to use the cd for labs. I just took it upon myself to install it on my older tower. I don't know how to get new updated versions of it because I don't want to mess something up. I did mess the system up before and I had couldn't fix and had to reinstall the OS from the cd. Emerson I will read that so next time I can post the correct way.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 07:01 AM   #6
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Thank you knudfl for the help I do feel better knowing I didn't mess up anything on my system. John VV I have Fedora 8 only because it came with my school book and I needed to use the cd for labs. I just took it upon myself to install it on my older tower. I don't know how to get new updated versions of it because I don't want to mess something up. I did mess the system up before and I had couldn't fix and had to reinstall the OS from the cd. Emerson I will read that so next time I can post the correct way.
Maybe start at linux.org?

www.linux.org

Lots of tutorials at beginning, intermediate and advanced to get you more comfortable with all of this.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 12:52 PM   #7
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a school class that is using UNSUPPORTED os and not just gone End Of Life a month or to ago
BUT 5 years ago !

is not a class i would pay cash for
it is one i would take to the deans office and make official complaint about
and DROP is ASAP!!!!

if you are looking of a supported OS for a OLDER computer have a look at CentOS 6.5
http://www.centos.org/
it is a FREE clone of RHEL 6.5
or even Fedora 20 -- but NOT on a old computer
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
but it really dose need 4 gig's of ram to run well
 
Old 03-04-2014, 01:37 PM   #8
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Jonh VV for school this is only my second Linux class and yes I was wondering why they were having us learn about an old os to but I think it's to just get a feel for Linux. I'm going to ITT for cyber security, but I thought Linux was really cool and wanted to learn more it so that's why I installed it on an older tower. I have been trying all day to upgrade it since I was told my Fedora was outdated but I haven't been able to get anywhere with it. I was trying to get Fedora 20 Live Media but after I download it I don't know how to install it. This is another reason why I'm trying to learn more about Linux. But thank you for your help.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 01:42 PM   #9
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Meh. Depending on the circumstances, I wouldn't go to the deans office.

I took a class last year that used Minix. I still think there was value in it.

I think the 'use the latest or die' mentality is only truly helpful in a production or secure environment. A pre-made, older, VM for teaching (insert subject here) might be ok. C hasn't changed much in 20 years, getting your feet wet in practical application of sysadmin tasks will lead you to using Google for differences between flavors anyway,..

I guess I'd have to see the exact situation before I said that your university was ripping you off by using a much older version of linux to teach you something.

That's really up for you to decide. And, who knows, it might actually benefit the class somehow if you bring it up as an official complaint.

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Old 03-04-2014, 02:27 PM   #10
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Re your ISO download, in the upper right sids of your Linux Questions window, you will see a link to "Linux Tutorials." Click on that, and go to the ISO section. There are several helpful descriptions of what you can do with an ISO image file. (I think you want this one, but check the FAQ section.)

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Old 03-04-2014, 04:01 PM   #11
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for the old fedora 8
the fedoraforum has a "end of life" section for those that HAVE to use a unsupported version
http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75

but 8 is very old

many things have changed
as i recall fedora 8 had ( then still EXPERIMENTAL) pulse audio
and it had many MANY bugs and did not have the yet to be built pv control

fedora and most current OS's are now using udev and now SystemV
fedora 8 uses the old init system
in fedora 20 and most current OS's there are no longer any "run levels"
init 3 and init 5 are mo longer used

and the Network manager has changed
i think fedora8 only had "network" and a EXPERIMENTAL for wireless / vpn/ dsl/ "network Manager"
with the old "network" as default

"network Manager" is now the default

the very basic SELinux tools have come a long way in 12 operating system versions also

there are almost NO SElinux issues any longer
fedora 8 also had a VERY NASTY pam selinux bug
that was fixed in fedora 9

odd that ITT is using fedora ( a VERY VERY FAST moving "research and development" distro) and NOT the FREE redhat clone " CentOS 6.5 "

I would have thought that they would be using CentOS and Debian with Slackware in higher classes

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Old 03-04-2014, 04:47 PM   #12
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Agreed. My strange minix class aside, the computers at my Community College have the latest Debian/Windows. And as far as I have seen there is no deviation from that preference.
 
Old 03-04-2014, 08:02 PM   #13
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Quote:
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[...][F]edora and most current OS's are now using udev and now SystemV[...]
I believe you meant to write d, not V. (They are quite close to each other on a "qwerty" keyboard. )

(Given the French meaning of Système D the choice of name may seem appropriate to some.)
 
  


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