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Old 09-16-2002, 05:06 PM   #1
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Help installing Opera


I am currently running Suse 7.0 I think it is, and downloaded Opera .RPM.

I clicked on the .rpm and it opened the package installer and acted as if it installed it. If I look at the file details, it gives a whole list of files in a /usr directory.

The problem is, I don't know how to start Opera. There is not an Icon anywhere on the K menu, nor is there one on the screen. I am very new to Linux. I had used Red Hat, and sucessfully installed Opera, but it put an Icon in the K menu.

I had to download and install some sort of a dependency for Opera before it would sucessfully install.

Did it really install, or am I missing something?? Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
Old 09-16-2002, 05:43 PM   #2
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It probably installed somewhere in /usr/local. Have you tried doing a find for opera? Once you find it, make sure that the binary is in your PATH, and start it from a terminal just as a test. If it works, you can create the menu option manually.
 
Old 09-16-2002, 05:46 PM   #3
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Just for clarification:

Yes, you can go to K then run and type:
opera

If it starts, then you can create the entry manual just at stickman said.
 
Old 09-16-2002, 08:58 PM   #4
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Tried the find files, found several opera files.

Found the binary entry, clicked on that, and after the hard drive churned for a few seconds, got an error, " Couldn't find the program "opera" "


When I click on K then run, then type opera, the hard drive churns, and then nothing.

If I check the rpm installer, I have an option to uninstall opera.

Also, the correct version is Suse 8.0 and I'm quite sure it's the personal version, and not the Pro version.

Thanks for the help. I'm guessing that it maybe really didn't install. Is there a way to manually install the .rpm without using the installer?

I am so new I'm lost. When I first tried to install Opera, it needed some dependency. I searched for this on the web, and ran the .rpm by clicking on the file, and letting the package installer do the job. When this finished, I again clicked on the opera.rpm and the hard drive churned and churned. But, it did NOT tell me that anything was required to install the rpm.

I'm really trying to do my part and search, I really appreciate the effort to steer me in the right direction.
 
Old 09-16-2002, 09:23 PM   #5
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Try running it from command (as was suggested, which was a good idea for troubleshooting, good thinking Stickman ) to see if there are error's output. You may have gotten the wrong rpm for your distro. You could always try installing it from source if you are any good at that. It's actually not that bad. Here's a basic example:

download opera.tar.gz
cd /directory/where/file/is/
tar xvzf opera.tar.gz
cd opera
./configure
make
make install

Those are ultra basic and will need tuning for versions and such. But if you'd like to give that a try, or run your already installed version from a command line to see errors and post em... anyway, those are some options.

Cool
 
Old 09-16-2002, 10:27 PM   #6
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Okay. I went to a command prompt by clicking on the shell at the bottom of my screen. Then I typed cd /usr/bin Then at the prompt glen@linux:/usr/bin> I typed opera and got the following response:

glen@linux:/usr/bin> opera
/usr/lib/opera/6.03-20020813.2/opera: relocation error: /usr/lib/opera/6.03-20020813.2/opera: undefined symbol: isFixedPitch__C13QFontDatabaseRC7QStringN21
glen@linux:/usr/bin>


The .rpm file I used was opera-6.03-20020813.2-shared-qt.i386.rpm which was supposed to be the one for Suse Linux. I also had to install qt2.2.1-22.1-1i586 to solve a dependency problem upon the first attempt to install.
 
Old 09-16-2002, 10:35 PM   #7
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I think you should give the source file a try. I am not too good at debugging google words like :C13QFontDatabaseRC7QStringN21

So, yeah, give the source file (opera.tar.gz) a try instead. You may have too old of a version of SuSE to work right with the RPM provided.

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Old 09-17-2002, 12:50 PM   #8
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I may just have to give up.

I tried both the opera........shared.tar.gz and the opera.......static.tar.gz, then used the sequence
above with the tar xvzf opera.tar.gz. There was a
config folder, but no configure file to run the ./configure
command.

I am not sure which to use, the static or the shared. I am not sure what the difference between the two is.

On the Opera website, it gives a procedure to see if you can use the .rpm files, and my system passes the test. I'm going to examine the files in detail to see if there are special insturctions to do this install. If nothing else, I am going to give up on trying Opera. It's not worth all this aggervation, but, I am learning something!
 
Old 09-17-2002, 04:37 PM   #9
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Static means all "dependencies" are included in the file. This means an increased size in the file, but supposedly no problems downloading. Shared, well that one is obvious from the static definition.

HTH
 
Old 09-18-2002, 02:37 AM   #10
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from what I remember with the opera tarball the only things u have to do is make and make install.. there is no configure.
correct me if I'm wrong.. just do make
 
Old 09-18-2002, 10:23 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by KayJay
from what I remember with the opera tarball the only things u have to do is make and make install.. there is no configure.
correct me if I'm wrong.. just do make
This is a misconception.The fact is that all the major packages such as mozilla, netscape, opera have in built self executable files for instaling and compiling etc etc. Moreover makes command works only if there is a file Makefile or something like that.

I remember that opera comes with precompiled binaries. You can install it by running the install.sh file.
 
Old 09-18-2002, 09:38 PM   #12
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Sounds great. To prove how Linux stupid I am, how
do I "run" the install.sh file?

Clicking on it just view's it doesn't it?
 
Old 09-18-2002, 10:10 PM   #13
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Hooooray!


This has been solved.

When I typed the tar xvzf opera.tar.gz, (only lthe file wasn't called opera.tar.gz, it was called opera-6.03-20020813.1-static-qt.i386
and when I issued the above file, it created a directory called
file:/home/glen/opera-6.03-20020813.1-static-qt.i386. I dont know
if that is normal or note, but, I decided to give something a try.
I hit the K button, then run, then typed:
/home/glen/opera-6.03-20020813.1-static-qt.i386/install.sh

I thought nothing happened. But, then, I clicked on the opera
icon inside the "directory" I typed above, (I know, it's really only
a file, because in Linux, **everything** is just a file, I am learning that)
it ran the Opera program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thangs guys, and gals for all the patience!!!!!!
 
Old 09-07-2003, 03:33 PM   #14
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Gelen,
how did you remove the previous verson of Opera? The one that you tried installing that didn't work?

I tried installing the source first and it didn't work - think I need to try the static one. I want to get the other one now.

How did you get rid of the first one before trying again?

hamish
 
  


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