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Old 10-15-2002, 09:42 AM   #1
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Help installing linux


I want to put redhat on my computer, here is the setup i have:

XP - 2 hard drives (raid)
2 Blank hard drives (not on raid, I want to put linux on one of them and use the other for storage)

How would I install lilo (or system commander) to boot from either the raid if i wanted windows or the other hard drive if i wanted linux?

Also, i don't think it matters right now, but when linux is installed I don't want it to see the raid that xp is on.
 
Old 10-15-2002, 10:59 AM   #2
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Lightbulb Some little advice..

First of all I don't RH, but since it's Linux I guess I'm able to advise you on the following:

When you insert the RH-installation CD and follow the installation-instructions it will sooner or later ask you on which HD you wish t install the RH distro. In your case just select the empty ones.
Then at some point it will most likely detect your XP or otherwise ask you if you wish to maintain a multiple OS setup.
When you awnser "yes" it will ask you on which drive is the bootsector of XP ..or it will find it without your help.
Now the install will setup LILO for you; the only thing you have to do is to sit back and enjoy the ride....

As for the "not detecting the RAID's".. RH won't unless you specifically choose to mount them on startup. (by editing the file fstab)

Hope this helps!
 
Old 10-15-2002, 12:49 PM   #3
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That does help, thanks. Just one (maybe 2) more questions though, when it asks which drive the boot sector is on, I'm guessing the boot sector is split between the Raid drives (I'm using a stripe raid). Will it prompt me to load the drivers for the raid so it can find the boot sector? Or would it be possible to make the 2nd blank hard drive the one with lilo?
 
Old 10-22-2002, 12:06 PM   #4
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anyone?
 
Old 10-22-2002, 12:52 PM   #5
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Somebody correct me if I am wrong but I am assuming that if you have XP loaded already on your raid then your raid is your first boot device right? If this is the case then wouldn't the MBR for LILO or System Commander have to be on the raid also? Now if this is the case I would think that RH would need to see the raid in order to at least know that it needs to go to the other drives that are not on the raid for it's OS files.

I hope that makes sense,
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Old 10-22-2002, 02:00 PM   #6
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I don't suppose I could change the boot order to have a blank hard drive boot up first, install linux on that, and have lilo on that? I'll have to do some tinkering with the bios when i get home and see what options i have
 
Old 10-23-2002, 07:31 AM   #7
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Sure I would think so, but in order for at least LILO to work it would at least have to be able to see all of the drives including the raid, so there are some type of Linux drivers you will need for it.

I ran into the exact same problem you have now. In the end I got too frustrated and I took Windows off of the raid, disabled the raid and placed everything on just the regular IDE controller. Maybe in a couple of months I will try it again, when I am more familiar with the raid setup in Linux and how to do all of the hardware configurations in my sleep.

Steve
 
Old 10-23-2002, 04:42 PM   #8
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Ok, i got it to work. I was just overly paranoid that I'd mess up my xp drives
 
Old 10-24-2002, 08:56 AM   #9
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May I ask how? So we can all learn.
 
Old 10-24-2002, 06:27 PM   #10
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well, i kinda cheated. I found out that my motherboard has a built in boot up menu if i press F8 in the loading screen. So i unplugged the xp drives so redhat wouldn't find them, installed linux, and plugged them back in. The computer boots up same as always unless i press F8, which brings up a menu and gives me the option to boot from the linux drive.
I had no idea that redhat 8 was so big. I've got 22mb free on a 3 gb drive (and I haven't even gotten online yet to download junk). Guess I'll have to find a bigger drive...

Anyone know if the nvidia detonator drivers for a ti4600 work in redhat 8?
 
Old 10-30-2002, 05:23 PM   #11
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I installed my Ti4600 last night and it works wonderfully.

The Ti4600 works with RH8, but it's the kernel version that makes the installation more involved than just doing an rpm -ivh nvidia-kernel-blah-blah.rpm and the rpm -ivh nvidia-glx-whatever-its-called.rpm. You will have some compiling to do because the rpms that are on Nvidia's site wont work with the newer kernel in RedHat 8.

I installed RH 7.2 and upgraded my kernel to the latest and greatest stable 2.4.18-17.x kernel. The installation procedure for RH 7.2 w/ an upgraded kernel is the same for RH8.

To get it to work without issues, you will need to do the following:
remove the old drivers rpm -e --nodeps NVIDIA-kernel-drivername
remove the old glx driver using the same method

Make sure you have kernel source AND kernel headers installed since they are dependencies for Nvidia source rpms to compile.

Download the source RPMs from nvidia.com:

rpmbuild --rebuild NVIDIA-kernel-whatever.src.rpm
rpmbuild --rebuild NVIDIA-GLX-filename.

I compiled them and when it finished, it left a freshly compiled rpm for me to install. It will tell you where it saved the finished rpm, which you then go to and rpm -ivh to install. Do the same for the GLX driver.

The next thing you would have to do is recompile the kernel. You might want to look up the kernel how to doc, because I can't remember EXACTLY what the commands are, but it's goes something like this:

go to the kernel source directory and do a:
make menuconfig
make deps
make modules
make modules_install
run lilo
check /etc/lilo.conf to be sure that your new kernel is on the list (should be last on the list). If you use grub, I don't know what it uses as the config file.

I found that I didn't have to make a bz2Image and copy it over the old one because Redhat installed it for me and automagically added it to the lilo.conf file as the default bootable option. I'd still double check it if I were you in the lilo.conf or grub config file.

After that, you may have to edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file and make sure that everything is ok. If you aren't familiar with the config file, you can look in the Nvidia sample XF86Config file for syntax. Also, make sure you start in runlevel 3 (command line) incase your X settings are hosed somewhere.

In the XF86Config file, make sure you are using the "nvidia" driver in the device section and NOT the "nv" driver. You need to make sure that you load "glx" in the modules section (I think it's the modules section) so that Open GL works in hardware acceleration mode).

Anyway, it does work. I was playing tux racer last night and a couple other games. Lovely..


-Ice-

Last edited by icel0rd; 10-30-2002 at 05:25 PM.
 
  


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