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Old 03-26-2003, 11:11 AM   #46
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md5sums are just to help you ensure you have downloaded the files without corruption, sometimes files corrupt on the net. You can get an md5sum program for Windows, it's usually installed by default on Linux. If you get the same sum as on the website, the file is the same one they sent you, if it's not, it got corrupted and you'll need to redownload it.

For now, you can ignore them most likely.
 
Old 03-26-2003, 01:03 PM   #47
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Since you have no linux box yet to perform the md5sum ( the way I do them ), you might have a look here: http://www.md5summer.org/ or this one http://www.slavasoft.com/fsum/ ( should work with XP, but as I said I've never tried them )

Bruno

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Old 03-26-2003, 04:45 PM   #48
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Thumbs up md5sum

I've got one, it works under the command prompt in windows xp and I have to type in "md5sum -c <filename>". Problem is, when I tried typing in the file names for the Mandrake 9.0 files (when I dl'd them), it ran like this:

md5sum -c mandrake9.0-cd1-somethingoranother.iso

It returned many, many errors. Told me there were 183 files and it couldn't open any of them. I noticed I had also downloaded an "md5sum-somethingoranother.md5" file, and when I ran it on that, it said it was checking all 3 cds and it came up okay.

So my question is this: Was I right in checking the iso files directly, or did I do it right the second time? I couldn't find any information about using md5sum in this way on the website the Mandrake readme refers to. (They talk about using it to check the integrity of sound files or something.)

Thanks!
 
Old 03-26-2003, 05:00 PM   #49
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Allright see this ( sorry, it's from another forum but spec. for windows-mandrake )
http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtop...ghlight=md5sum
 
Old 03-26-2003, 05:05 PM   #50
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From the manpage:

-c, --check
check MD5 sums against given list

so you were correct to run it against the list. Normally, you just run:

md5sum file.iso

and it prints the md5sum to the terminal, but using -c seems easier. In fact I didn't know about that option before. You learn something new every day

Anyway, sounds like the files downloaded ok
 
Old 03-26-2003, 10:00 PM   #51
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Go here -----> http://www.etree.org/md5com.html. That's where the Mandrake 9.0 readme sent me. It's also where I dl'd my windows copy of md5sum. Unfortunately, although it tells you to run md5sum -c <filename> it doesn't tell you which file name clearly enough for a newbie like me. So let me see if I'm understanding.

I can run just md5sum <filename.iso> and it will work.
Or I can run md5sum -c <filename.md5> and it will work.

Could someone please explain to me why? Perhaps the critical point in exactly what is going on is why I'm having trouble comprehending this.

Thanks Sadie.
 
Old 03-27-2003, 09:30 PM   #52
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Re: Waiting..

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Originally posted by Sadie Newlinux
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I'm probably going to download more than one distribution and try them out.
This is a really good idea. Go to www.distrowatch.com to find summaries of all the distros. You can probably get lots of mirror sites for each of them there as well.


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I didn't much care for Redhat when I installed it last time, although admittedly that was an older version and it may have changed. (5.2) Still, I'm gonna disregard it for right now, and check out Mandrake and Slackware. I almost used Slackware last time I installed Linux, and now I'm sorry I didn't, because at least I'd be ahead of the game. Still, it will be an adventure discovering which one I like.
Why not install Slackware now? I hear all this talk about Newbie-Friendly stuff, but I'll tell you what, I first installed Mandrake and everything went perfectly. I got rid of it after about a month. If you want to know why I went to Slackware and if you want to know if you want Slackware, then read this post on another thread. This explains my feelings for Slackware, and bear in mind I was VERY new to Linux in general at the time too.

In another of your posts you mention getting a distro with a faster learning curve. If you're willing to get your hands dirty, and want to actually learn Linux, then get Slackware. You only need 1 CD for install as well (Slackware 9.0 might be more but 8.1 is only 1CD).

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I was really interested in Debian, both from what people on it have said in various threads (I did a search), and also from information on a couple of Debian-related sites that I found. But near as I can tell, it won't run on a P4, and it won't work with an NVidia Vanta graphics card (integrated), much less with my CD Burner. I don't even think my hard drive was listed (it's a NEC). Pretty disappointing.
I've never used Debian, but apparently those who have, really like it. I don't know much about its requirements either, sorry.

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You guys are all great, and I'll refer anyone who asks here. I'll probably stick around, too. (Even after I finish driving y'all nuts with my questions!) Good communities are hard to find, and I like to give something back. (Hopefully by then I'll be able to!)

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I'm sorry I didn't get to this thread sooner. I don't know how I over looked it. Welcome to LQ, BTW, and I'm glad you're enjoying yourself so far--let's hope it stays that way.
 
Old 03-27-2003, 11:53 PM   #53
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Wink Hey Thanks!

I'm sorry I didn't get to this thread sooner. I don't know how I over looked it. Welcome to LQ, BTW, and I'm glad you're enjoying yourself so far--let's hope it stays that way.

It may, if I don't get killed for asking too many dumb questions! lol

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm trying to decide how much trouble it would to triple partition this machine and run XP, Slackware and Mandrake on it simultaneously.

Unfortunately, it's tax season and Sadie is a busy girl. Linux will have to wait till next week at the earliest. *sigh*
 
Old 03-28-2003, 03:53 AM   #54
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Re: Hey Thanks!

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Originally posted by Sadie Newlinux

It may, if I don't get killed for asking too many dumb questions! lol
There are no dumb questions here. You might get some short answers though that will point you in a direction for help sometimes, but that doesn't make the question dumb.

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Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm trying to decide how much trouble it would to triple partition this machine and run XP, Slackware and Mandrake on it simultaneously.
You're welcome. To be honest, I have no idea how difficult it would be as I deleted MS completely off my computer before installing Linux. There are, however, many people here at LQ who are dual, triple, and quad + booters (or have at least had that many OSes running at once) that will be better able to answer that for you.

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Unfortunately, it's tax season and Sadie is a busy girl. Linux will have to wait till next week at the earliest. *sigh*
We'll be here when you need us.
 
Old 03-28-2003, 02:32 PM   #55
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Oh fooey, you can learn Linux just fine with Mandrake, Slackware just forces you to learn stuff. I dunno, maybe some people find that useful, I just find it irritating. I took it at my own pace, no problems.
 
Old 03-28-2003, 03:21 PM   #56
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Oh fooey, you can learn Linux just fine with Mandrake, Slackware just forces you to learn stuff. I dunno, maybe some people find that useful, I just find it irritating. I took it at my own pace, no problems.
LOL

I completely agree mhearn. I just remembered reading a post of Sadie's saying that she wanted a distro with a steeper learning curve so I suggested my favorite one--I wasn't trying to start a distro war. I provided her with distrowatch's site to help her find the perfect one for her and I also linked her to a post of mine that explains why I chose Slackware, not why anyone else should choose it. I have no problems with Drake or any other distro, was just basically telling her to try Slackware, and any other distro she might want to try.

Mandrake users please take no offense at my earlier posts. Thanks.
 
Old 03-28-2003, 03:56 PM   #57
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hehehe, actually I use suse and redhat But i started on slack too, back in '95 (hint: i only got up courage to use linux again in 2002)
 
Old 03-28-2003, 04:02 PM   #58
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Let me know when you go back to Slack.
 
Old 04-15-2003, 11:49 PM   #59
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I'm back! Sorry I was gone for so long, but now that tax season is over, I can breathe easier and get back to some serious work - installing those Linux distros without wiping my computer!

I will probably get onto that tomorrow, but in the meantime, I had another unrelated question - I'm trying to break into the 3D/VR realm, and I'm unsure where to start. My programming experience is *very* old, although I'd like to think I'm computer savvy. I don't even know where to start to find out what I need to know.

If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, or even questions, please let me know! I'm a bit desperate. I've been trolling all the book lists, and this book looks okay and that book might be good, but I really need to start from the beginning. I can't figure out what to learn, until I have a list of what I need to know.

For instance, if I was talking about Linux, then my list would be:

- find a good help forum
- research linux distributions
- select linux distribution
- research installation and follow-up techniques

With this particular issue, I haven't even gotten *that* far. I don't know where I should even begin to start. I'm posting here, though, because I know a lot of you have computer experience in various fields, and also because I think Linux might be the best platform to start doing this on.

Help!!

And thanks!

Sadie
 
Old 04-16-2003, 01:33 AM   #60
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Try this

Sadie
Go to Ebay and buy the disks for the Distro you want. I was having the same download problems you are. I ordered the disks and had them sent piority mail and had them in a few days. I tried Mandrake 9.0 first , then Redhat 7.2 next is Redhat 9.0.
I'm as dumb as a bucket of pus when it comes to Linux so if I can do it anyone can. I've been messing with computers since Dos 3.0 and I still find Linux harder to work with than dos. The great thing about Linux is it comes with a lot of great applications right out of the box so if you want to set someone up with a box that will do a little bit of everything and they are not going to mess with it , it's great. I set my father up with email and few other things and he's happy. But when you're trying to start from scratch like you are it's a lot tougher.
I run Linux on an old Pentium Pro 200 and connect to the internet through my hub connected to a cable modem. Connecting to the hub was EASY and automatic.

Have fun K
 
  


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