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Old 04-23-2010, 03:31 PM   #1
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Question HDD setup for dual boot XP/Linux install on slave drive questions


Have older system, self-built around 2000 or so. My plan is to optimize the system for speed and utility, upgrade the OS from W2000 Pro to XP Pro, and include dual boot so as to install some version/distro (?) of Linux to learn on.

Present system: X86 based (32 bit), using a P4, 1.8 GHz/400 MHz fsb, with 512mb of DDR RAM installed, can upgrade to 2 gigs total.

Shuttle MV42 motherboard, including onboard video and sound (S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR P4M266/VIA 8751/8233 chipset, VIA AC'97 Audio Controller, 2.2 compliant)

VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet 10Base T/100 Base TX LAN Adapter onboard (VIA chipset 8233)

2 HDD:

1 - 60 Gig Maxtor 6Y060L0, in three partitions, with Windows 2000 Pro and assorted apps and data files. This is installed as the master drive.

1 - 160 Gig Seagate ST3160023A Barracuda Drive, 148 Gigs useable, unpartitioned at this time. This is presently installed as the slave.

1 - floppy and 2 - CD drives, one writeable.

2 USB ports

Questions begin now:

If I should decide to use the available 160 gig drive as a dual boot system, in order to install both XP and some version of Linux, how should I set it up? How many partitions will XP and Linux need or work with best? How much space for each OS? What file systems? Should I format/partition it with the existing W2000 OS? What comes first, the chicken or the egg? (XP or Linux?) I have read somewhere that it matters which OS is installed first, due to boot records being overwritten by successive OS installs.

I plan to keep W2000 on the first HDD at least until I move my files over to XP. Will I need to switch the master/slave designations after installing XP and Linux on the new drive, since I will want to boot from that drive?

Essentially, for a time, I'll have 3 OS's, W2000Pro, XP Pro, and Linux. Will this be a problem?

Eventually, I'll dump W2000 since it is no longer supported after July of this year.

What versions of Linux would work/not work with the present system? How much memory is required? Is the present 512mb adequate, or should I install a gig or two?

Will Linux recognize my hardware?

Heeelp.
 
Old 04-23-2010, 03:47 PM   #2
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Hi,

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Originally Posted by alearner View Post
Have older system, self-built around 2000 or so. My plan is to optimize the system for speed and utility, upgrade the OS from W2000 Pro to XP Pro, and include dual boot so as to install some version/distro (?) of Linux to learn on.

Present system: X86 based (32 bit), using a P4, 1.8 GHz/400 MHz fsb, with 512mb of DDR RAM installed, can upgrade to 2 gigs total.

Shuttle MV42 motherboard, including onboard video and sound (S3 Graphics ProSavage DDR P4M266/VIA 8751/8233 chipset, VIA AC'97 Audio Controller, 2.2 compliant)

VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet 10Base T/100 Base TX LAN Adapter onboard (VIA chipset 8233)

2 HDD:

1 - 60 Gig Maxtor 6Y060L0, in three partitions, with Windows 2000 Pro and assorted apps and data files. This is installed as the master drive.

1 - 160 Gig Seagate ST3160023A Barracuda Drive, 148 Gigs useable, unpartitioned at this time. This is presently installed as the slave.

1 - floppy and 2 - CD drives, one writeable.

2 USB ports

Questions begin now:

If I should decide to use the available 160 gig drive as a dual boot system, in order to install both XP and some version of Linux, how should I set it up? How many partitions will XP and Linux need or work with best? How much space for each OS? What file systems? Should I format/partition it with the existing W2000 OS? What comes first, the chicken or the egg? (XP or Linux?) I have read somewhere that it matters which OS is installed first, due to boot records being overwritten by successive OS installs.

I plan to keep W2000 on the first HDD at least until I move my files over to XP. Will I need to switch the master/slave designations after installing XP and Linux on the new drive, since I will want to boot from that drive?

Essentially, for a time, I'll have 3 OS's, W2000Pro, XP Pro, and Linux. Will this be a problem?

Eventually, I'll dump W2000 since it is no longer supported after July of this year.

What versions of Linux would work/not work with the present system? How much memory is required? Is the present 512mb adequate, or should I install a gig or two?

Will Linux recognize my hardware?

Heeelp.
Not too bad a setup for a multi-boot system. I would max the memory if possible.

I use and prefer Slackware. Well supported and once you learn to use Slackware then all others will fall into place for you. You may have some tweaking to do for the install but things should easily be ironed out. If you have any questions or problems then just post on the LQ Slackware Forum. You can do a search here on LQ as a lot of your questions have already been answered. Plus you can scroll down an see similar threads that will aid you.

Just a few useful links;

SlackwareŽ Essentials
SlackwareŽ Basics
Linux Documentation Project
Rute Tutorial & Exposition
Linux Command Guide
Bash Reference Manual
Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
Linux Newbie Admin Guide
LinuxSelfHelp
Getting Started with Linux

These links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links' . More than just SlackwareŽ links!
 
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Old 04-23-2010, 03:52 PM   #3
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If you dualboot with the 160GB drive, you will need 3 partitions: NTFS for Windows, ext3/ext4 for Linux, and swap for Linux. 2GB is a good size for the swap partition, and you can opt to divide the remaining 158 GB however you like between Windows and Linux.

I think it is easier to install XP first, so it doesn't overwrite your linux bootloader in the MBR, and so Linux can hopefully automatically detect and add in the XP entry to the bootloader.

The Linux/XP drive will have to be the master drive, and the W2k should be the slave. Hopefully when you install linux, the installer will automatically add the w2k entry to your GRUB/LILO bootloader, but if it doesn't, you will need to add that into the configuration file.

Running 3 OS's should not be a problem.

I'm not sure about whether or not your specific hardware is supported, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be. Most distro's of linux have low system requirements, so you should be okay. I've no idea about Windows XP system requirements though.

If you are concerned about whether your hardware will be supported or not, you can download, burn, and boot up a livecd, which is available to most distros, and test each of your components. It will be like running full-blown linux from your CD drive, without having to install anything.

Hope I helped with some of your questions :P
 
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Old 04-23-2010, 04:06 PM   #4
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Agree with the above advice. I'd also add:
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Essentially, for a time, I'll have 3 OS's, W2000Pro, XP Pro, and Linux. Will this be a problem?
Be careful here, as WinXP will discover W2000 and cause some mischief, potentially. I'd unplug the 60G drive for now, install WinXP on the 160 G drive, then Slackware or whatever depending on your like or dislikes. Use an older version like Slackware 10 or 11 or Ubuntu 8.o4 LTS, which still get security updates; might get better mileage on an old system. I run Slack 12.1 and XP on a 2002 machine with perfectly acceptable speeds, for me at least.

Afer that, you can mess with the boot loader to triple boot off the 3 drives. You'll have to change jumpers, etc. I would and do use grub 0.97, it seems easier in these situations.

Last edited by mostlyharmless; 04-23-2010 at 04:19 PM. Reason: typo, minor changes
 
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