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Old 03-27-2005, 08:23 PM   #1
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Having Trouble Installing Damn Small Linux


Okay, here goes...

Alright, I have a laptop that had windows 95 on it. I had to restore it, but didn't have the serial to complete the setup. Since I had always been interested in linux, I decided to get a linux distro. I chose DSL. Now, I need help installing it. You see, My laptop won't recognize my cd drive until I run a certain program in dos, so it won't boot from the disc, therefore, I'm having a hell of a time. I was wondering if there was anyway I could copy the ISO to my hard drive (when in DOS) and run it from there (perhaps in Windows Safe Mode?). Should I get a program to run it? If so, what would you recommend? I'm sorry for my newbness, but I'm just now starting to seriously check into linux.

thanks

btw, I chose DSL because it is small, and looks nice. I have a slow dialup and it took 2 h 45 min to get it downloaded, so I really would like to get it to work.
 
Old 03-27-2005, 10:14 PM   #2
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I'd just make a boot floppy. There should be a boot.img file on the CD for this. Download rawrite2 and create the floppy on a windows PC.
 
Old 03-27-2005, 10:36 PM   #3
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Finally, some one replies. Well, the link you gave me did give me a program, but my system (XP) said that it wasn't suitable to run MS Dos and Windows applications.
 
Old 03-27-2005, 10:52 PM   #4
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I downloaded another version of Rawrite, and put it on my laptop. I got it in Safe Mode, and then ran it. As I said earlier, my computer Doesn't recognize the cd rom drive until I run a program in dos, then I cannot do anything with Rawrite, so I copied the file to my computer using dos. Now, all there is is an ISO file. No IMG file. So therefore, Rawrite isn't helpin me any....
 
Old 03-27-2005, 11:14 PM   #5
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I'll take a stab at this.

If you have a network you can install from another computer.

If you have a usb on your notebook. You can install DSL on a usb key.
If you have usb. Maybe you could boot from usb cd drive?????(you would have to get a usb cd drive.)

Do you have a floppy drive and do you know anyone with highspeed?
You could boot from floppy with boot.img and do a network install via high speed. (never done this...Think this is right..there are instructions for this somewhere on this forum.. I have dial up also. 28.8.... God I hate Verizon.)

There are other ways....Compact flash, but I'm still trying to figure that out for myself.

Good luck.
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:34 PM   #6
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Thanks for tryin to help me blair, but, Nah, no USB drive, no Network, none of that. Is there perhaps a program that makes a boot floppy that could point to the ISO on my hard drive? So that the system would start to read the floppy, but it would point to the ISO, and it would boot from it instead? Something similar to a Windows Shortcut, you know? (I wish it was that simple, I actually tried copying a shortcut to the ISO and pasting it to the Floppy Disk )

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:07 AM   #7
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I hear what your saying, but I think you need something the computer can see at boot time.

If you shortcut a .iso wouldn't still have to be read by windows?

If you have a bottable floppy you might be able to install old school via floppies, but I am guessing you would need alot of 'em?????????
If I remeber correctly DSL is like 60 MB's....divided by 1.44...='s

Found this on dsl website --
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/87

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/65

try here too.http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/62

Regards,
Blair

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Old 03-28-2005, 07:28 AM   #8
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boot.img
 
Old 03-28-2005, 01:25 PM   #9
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Thanks man, but I tried it, and it didn't work...I used that same Boot img too. It wants to read the shi off the cd rom drive, but it can't, because the system doesn't recognize it. I have to go through some shi before it does, then when I reboot, it forgets all about it. If it did recognize my cd rom drive, then I could probably go into the BIOS and just tell it to boot from it, like everyone else does...It worked to a certain extent, the boot screen came up, then i typed in boot, and then it went into a lil black screen with the Linux Penguin on it, it started up, but it said it couldn't find the Knoppix filesystem, I believe, and then it said it was dropping down to a very limited shell. The shell is similar to SlimLinux, but I wanted a desktop interface, not just text, you know? Also, that boot img has a different version name then my DSL, mine's dsl-0.9.3
It said in the bootup that i could load it from a previously copied cd image, but when i put it in, it seemed to seach for it, but found nothing...

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Old 03-28-2005, 05:41 PM   #10
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come on people...help me out, somehow...I broke down and downloaded DragonLinux as well, but it didn't work either. I went into dos, typed in the correct path for the setup, and it said "Bad Command or File Name" dammit!!! I'm having trouble people, help me out with DSL! There's got to be some way.
 
Old 03-28-2005, 07:07 PM   #11
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If any of you cannot figure this out, please suggest a distro that will work for me.

I want something like this:
Hard Drive Installation, without the use of .iso files
Desktop interface
small filesize < 50 Mb
I want to keep away from hard drive partitioning
fairly easy for a newbie...

Now, this was what I thought Dragonlinux would be, the installation used a .Bat file, but it didn't work for me, for unknown reasons.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 01:50 PM   #12
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I guess you didn't try the floppies?

Here are a couple more small distros.

Feather Linux

Puppy Linux.

If you have another pc you could install laptop hd in that computer an install there.
You would need an adapter to make laptop hd work with desktop.

There is no magic or easy way for your machine to install linux.
It is going to be a pain in the a**. If it was me. I woulod try.

1.Network install.
2. Floppies
3. Swap Hd's
4. Compact Flash.

My .02

Good Luck
Blair
 
Old 03-29-2005, 04:41 PM   #13
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Thanks for suggesting the distros. I actually found Puppy last nite, and was thinking about installing it tonite, but thanks for tryin to help me out. If Puppy doesn't work, I'll try Feather Linux. I think puppy's the one for me, but thanks for the help.
 
Old 03-30-2005, 07:26 AM   #14
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Good Luck. Just post how you make out.

Blair
 
Old 03-30-2005, 05:00 PM   #15
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Haha, I actually got Damn Small Linux to (sorta) work. I copied the Knoppix directory to my c:\ drive, and Bam! It booted up! It's not working though, I'm pretty sure it's because I didn't burn the iso on the cd-r correctly. I've come to this conclusion, because at one point I had the wrong cd in, and it did the same thing as when I had the one with the ISO in. lol.
 
  


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