LinuxQuestions.org
Support LQ: Use code LQ3 and save $3 on Domain Registration
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 06-04-2009, 05:41 PM   #1
linus72
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: PocketWriter/MinimalX
Posts: 5,060

Rep: Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330
grub.iso vs isolinux.iso Differences, Uses, and Advantages?


OK, basically, are there any advantages to using either a grub.iso using grub stage2_eltorito or a isolinux.iso using isolinux to boot?

Thanks
 
Old 06-05-2009, 06:54 AM   #2
contusion
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 310

Rep: Reputation: 35
Using grub.iso you can boot other installed OS as well as that in the cd.
But with isolinux.iso you can boot the installed linux or other boot images.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
linus72
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: PocketWriter/MinimalX
Posts: 5,060

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330
OK, but why don't more iso's come as grub-bootable
Does isolinux have an advantage over grub booting a cd?
Most all Distro's use isolinux, but why?
Thnaks
 
Old 06-06-2009, 07:47 PM   #4
aus9
Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,056

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
hi

I have built mini iso images as per links but how I documented it might give you a clue as to why devs are not going to spend that much time learning how to do it?

grub-legacy way is

http://www.sidux.com/index.php?modul...ka&tag=Gfxmenu

I have not populated the other folders /bin /etc/ etc...etc. as sidux site actually frowns on any posts that show how to remaster sidux.....and they ask instead ppl to become involved with the sidux project....and I respect their wishes.

grub2 is a wee bit harder for the beginning but easier to mod once you have eltorito images

http://www.sidux.com/index.php?modul...&tag=Grub2iso1

Making your own eltorito...grub2 image
http://www.sidux.com/index.php?modul...a&tag=Grub2elt

2) The documents at grub legacy on how to do above is very limited as I am sure you know.

3) AFAIK I have the only wiki on how to do it with grub2....to a sufficient level to allow users build their own isos.

As I know you have built iso images....forgive me while I speak to all readers...
The lack of documentation makes it harder for devs to adopt to grub2.

grub2 does not currently work on ext4.

so in summary...IMHO it is time to read and test using grub legacy or grub2 that is reason

4) Since I know you use grub...a grub iso...has one great advantage over any effort that isolinux can put out....
you can use the grub iso to trouble shoot...or use manual commands to install or repair....depending on whether you populated the iso with sufficient grub legacy or grub2 files.

Last edited by aus9; 06-06-2009 at 07:55 PM. Reason: fix some typos
 
Old 06-06-2009, 07:55 PM   #5
linus72
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: PocketWriter/MinimalX
Posts: 5,060

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330
Thank you, I will check it out now,
I have made a couple tinycore grub iso's
( http://multidistro.com/downloads/tc_...c_flavors.html )

They work great on my pc's and are only 50MB (mini-cd)
I don't know if they work on other pc's, you know the disclaimer.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 03:19 AM   #6
aus9
Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,056

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
edit

your second last link readme does not work for me but going to your last link gives me this
http://multidistro.com/downloads/downloads.html and the readme works so well done

(written after post 8)

Last edited by aus9; 06-07-2009 at 10:42 AM.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 06:34 AM   #7
linus72
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: PocketWriter/MinimalX
Posts: 5,060

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330
What do you mean?
My site read-me's are a disaster, my html skill is like fishin with a baseball bat.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 10:35 AM   #8
aus9
Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,056

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
lol well at least you have some skills.

I did peek at your distro but um I am not interested in building from scratch.

But I am interested in minimal distros and am curently playing with slitaz. It uses lxde. and isos are only 30 megs but have heaps of stuff on them....in the same fashion as puppy and DSL.

good luck

Last edited by aus9; 06-07-2009 at 10:38 AM.
 
Old 06-07-2009, 10:53 AM   #9
linus72
Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Gordonsville-AKA Mayberry-Virginia
Distribution: PocketWriter/MinimalX
Posts: 5,060

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330Reputation: 330
Yes, however Tinycore is the New DSL; founded by the man who started MyDSL, wrote the DSL book etc.
Tinycore at 30MB's easily has flash9, firefox, OSS, Gimp2, and more.
Great thing is you add only what you want, which can be unistalled at any time.

DSL is basically a dead distro.
Slitaz is cool too, very nice to be small.

There is also TTYLinux which is like 5MB, but no X.
 
  


Reply

Tags
boot, linux, loader


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Differences between files .img and .iso ? bcostacurta Linux - Newbie 4 12-12-2008 09:18 AM
LXer: ISO Master - GUI Tool to edit ISO Images in openSUSE LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 08-15-2008 10:10 AM
need installer iso built using syslinux, not isolinux scheidel21 Linux - General 3 05-31-2007 01:31 PM
Iso Differences Darkstar Debian 2 06-21-2005 09:29 PM
Does anyone Know how to open either .iso.rz or these .iso.xdelta,.iso.bz2,.iso.lzma?? maximalred Debian 5 06-09-2004 06:15 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 AM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration