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Old 02-26-2005, 11:26 PM   #1
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Grub configure?


I downloaded 9.1 personal and burnt to cd disc, I wanna know how to install suse 9.1 personal on a blank harddrive and boot on harddrive to xwindow after complete installing and configure? I dunno how to configure grub or partitions for suse 9.1. First time I left it default untouch as let it configure itself. During installation setting, it configured partitioning itself and it showed me what partiton it set for me which are
swap partiton is 500mb on /dev/hda1
Create root partition 18.1gb (/dev/hda2 with reiser)
Is it the way it should be? or do I need to change it? Because when it complete installing, it asked me to reboot before it need to get to set up root password, configure, updates, etc. After reboot, all I see was GRUB> and didnt get back to set up menu because it asked me to remove disc and thought it would get back to set up menu to finish up on configurations such as root pw, etc. I am new to linux and dunno what to do next as it left me alone in middle of no where. I dont know what commands to type in grub prompt so I get to set up root pw, configurations, etc. How come in Suse 9.2 pro that I can configure grub before installing but in 9.1 personal, not grub set up or configure except for partition? any help would be appericate, and remember that Im new to linux, thanks.
 
Old 02-27-2005, 06:43 AM   #2
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I successed installed suse 9.1 personal, set up root pw, etc. Now plm is grub, when I reboot or turn on machine, it took me to grub> w/ black screen. I click on tab button to see commands, also type help and played w/ it. I dunno linux command at all, only know MS DOS commands pretty much, none MS DOS works on grub> Only way I could get into xwindow or KDE if I boot on disc that I burnt suse 9.1 on then went into manuelly and select boot on installed system. But I want to boot on harddrive instead, how do I do that? I dunno what to change in grub configuration under boot loader setup in YAST. Right now my configure is
Boot Loader Type GRUB
Boot Loader Location 1.IDE, 18.65gb, /dev/hda, WDC-WD200BB-00DEA0 (MBR)
Disk Order /dev/hda
Default Section Linux
Available Sections Linux (Default), Floppy, Failsafe, Memory Test
Active Boot Loader Partition No
Replace Code in MBR Leave Untouched
Back up Affected Disk Area No
Add Saved MBR to Boot Loader Menu No
Save Method Save Only Changed Files
gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message

I need to know what need to change in order to make harddrive boot to xwindows instead of booting on cd rom w/ suse disc in. Or what command in grub> I can type to get to xwindows? any suse expert help me out on this one?
 
Old 02-27-2005, 07:25 AM   #3
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You need to add a new entry in the "available secions" part. I don't have SuSE installednow, but I seem to remember there is an option where you got this info to see the cofig files.

The section you need to add looks something like this:

title WindowsXP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

If you don't find anything similar in grub.conf have a look at menu.lst

The you'll have to rewrite grub to the MBR. If you can't find the option in the grahpical interface open a console, su to root and type

# grub-install /dev/hda
 
Old 02-27-2005, 07:49 AM   #4
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Getting Grub to start Windose is fairly simple.
If you have Windose installed on the first partition of hda,
at the Grub> type the commands:
root (hd0,0) (enter)
makeactive (enter)
chainloader +1 (enter)
 
Old 02-27-2005, 09:29 PM   #5
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Ok I typed
Root (hd0,0) then click enter, it gave me
Filesystem type Unknown, partition type 0x82
then typed
makeactive
and didnt said anything next command I typed
chainloader +1
it said error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format.
Also tried
Rootnoverify (hd0,0) and chainloader +1, samething. but I dont have windowxp on harddrive, it all blank before I install linuxs on everytime using low level format.

Is Windose operation system as window environment like KDE or GNOME? yes KDE was installed and I am able to enter or login KDE only if I boot on cd rom w/ SUSE disc inside then had to select manual install to boot installed system in order to enter KDE or windose if u meant. I modify different possible ways on GRUB configure set up under bootloader set up in YAST for 1 week, no luck. At first, I left it default which still have to boot on cd rom everytime I reboot or turn on machine. I looked into faq at gnu.org website to find solutions, unsuccessfully still. I had been format/reinstalling few different discto like FC3, suse 9.2, mandrake, etc. Mandrake 10.1 is only one that successfully boot on harddrive to windose without need to boot on cd rom to boot on installed system or enter grub prompt tp use grub commands. So why Suse or others doesnt? Even FC3 or some others enter GRUB_ not GRUB> which means I cannot type anything after default install and setups. Why do they make it more diffcult in default set up after installing for beginners or me to be able to enter windose? All I need to know what configure are to modify or put in bootloader setup if possible in order to boot on harddrive directly to windose. I will reinstall Suse again later to try your grub commands, since my bootloader setup was probably mess up from myself trying changing too much trying make it work after reinstalling. Im installing Mandrake 10.1 now, and I didnt like GNOME last time on it, I prefer KDE that I expericed on Suse. Mandrake 10.1 install setup asked me for KDE 3.3 cd 4 but I only have 3 cds. I went to mandrake ftp mirror sites, all I see was 3 iso downloads for cds, not one KDE 3.3 on list to download. I like Suse because it has KDE and YAST which good for newbie like me. I am suppose to finish set up Suse for someone on this low end machine by end of this week then have to bring it back to her and dont wanna her to get frustrate on booting on cdrom to get into windose everytime then she burst out onto me cuz I do not know bootloader configurations. Already went thru googles, faqs, most are for multiply harddrives and OS which I am looking for only one and blank harddrive to install only one linux OS on, thats it. Then it create 2 partitons at default install/setup, I am guessing that where it or myself must got confused.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 01:19 AM   #6
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I finally found a way to boot suse 9.1 on harddrive thru bootloader configure. I changed from grub to lilo graphic image. I dont need depend on disc anymore. wonder wtf grub is for. I learned this by looking into how mandrake bootloader configuration was set since it boot on harddrive after default installation and configurations. Mandrake's default was lilo graphic image and suse's was grub. I dunno what grub and lilo means but only thing I can tell difference that grub isnt fun and lilo is for booting on harddrive or without need to type anything to boot or get into windose.
 
Old 03-03-2005, 09:21 AM   #7
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I dunno what grub and lilo means but only thing I can tell difference that grub isnt fun and lilo is for booting on harddrive or without need to type anything to boot or get into windose.
Well, The Grand Unified Boot Loader (GRUB) work marvels for me and personally I find it a lot easier to configure than Lilo. You just need to instal it like I mentioned in my earlier post.
 
  


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