Grub Bootloader sequence please help
 

You guys probably have heard this before and I looked at a lot of the questions that other people asked on other forums but it won't work for me.

Anyways I would like to change the boot order in grub so windows loads first. (I would have rather had linux alone but some people in my family don't seem to want to try it)

A lot of people are saying go into boot/grub/menu.lst but I can manage to go into boot then grub but after that there is nothing that is named menu.lst

so if anyone can help I would appreciate it a lot just installed ubuntu and am running the latest version. I also don't think I have a regular version of grub I don't even know how to check it but I don't think it is the same one.

Thanks to everyone in advance

Most likely you have Grub 2 installed, for which the menu file is /boot/grub/grub.cfg that should not be manually edited. See the following docs for details:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager

It would help to know what distribution of Linux you have and what version of that distribution.

Do you know whether you have grub vs. grub2?

A directory listing of /boot/grub would probably give us some hints.

I believe it is grub2 according to article link that colicix gave me above.

I am using ubuntu 10.4

Did you understand the contents of those links well enough to get the answer to your original question?

Now that we know you have Ubuntu 10.04 (or later) we know the links colucix posted contain the correct answer to your question. But that doesn't necessarily mean you found that answer.

If you don't understand it, is there some specific part of the info documented there which confuses you?

thankyou colucix and johnsfine for your help I installed startup manager and tested and it works great I just have one more question

If I were to update to the next kernel when it comes out will I have to do these settings again?

Not necessarily. Upgrades retain classic grub unless specifically replaced by the user.
I suspect this will change in future.

"grub-install -v" is the best way to determine the version.

As for re-applying the changes:
- for kernel changes, no
- for next Ubuntu release, that probably relies on whether an upgrade or a re-install is done.

ok thanks all this information has helped me a lot

I have only been using ubuntu for a few hours and it surpasses all of my expectations if only I could get the rest of the family to use ubuntu

You can always do a backup of their personal data and uninstall windows...! ;)

haha maybe I should do that