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Old 03-24-2012, 10:26 AM   #1
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GRUB


There are panic stations in this house - I was recently given a very ancient laptop and thought I'd load Linux Ubuntu 11.4. Well the machine is so slow I cannot get on with it although I have used it happily on other pcs. I decided to try and format the hard drive and have removed the partitions but now I am stuck. Whatever I put into the cd drive I get the following:GRUB Loading Stage1.5 GRUB Loading please wait Error 22. Nothing I do seems to get me out of this predicament. Is there any way to overcome the problem (in simple terms)? I now hope to install Windows 7 from an original disk
 
Old 03-24-2012, 11:03 AM   #2
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When you removed Ubuntu and the partitions, you removed the grub files in /boot, but you left behind the first stage of grub in the MBR of the hard drive. Now the first stage looks for the rest of grub and can't find it.
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Whatever I put into the cd drive I get the following:GRUB Loading Stage1.5 GRUB Loading please wait Error 22.
This sounds like the BIOS is set to poll the hard drive looking for a bootable OS before checking the CD drive. Go into your BIOS as set the boot order to poll the CD drive before the hard drive. Then it should start your windows install disk. Installing windows will overwrite the MBR with the windows bootloader and you are back in business.
 
Old 03-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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Thanks for such a quick response. When I switch on and go into F12 I get a list of ways to boot but whichever I choose I still get this Grub message. If I try F8 I don't get any choice just the error messageIf I load the Windows cd a blue screen shows upp eventually saying that it has closed to prevent damage and I can go nowhere there.

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Old 03-24-2012, 02:35 PM   #4
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When you boot the computer, you should see a message at the bottom (usually) of the screen for 3-5 seconds telling you which key to press to enter setup. That's what you need. The Grub message is coming from the mbr of the hard drive. You need to change it. It might help if you posted the type of computer your are using, Dell, HP, Compaq, other?? Most manufacturers have a standard key to use.
 
Old 03-24-2012, 02:44 PM   #5
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Yes it says F12 which then gives me a choice and I have been using boot from CD, I use the Ubuntu CD which eventually takes me to the desktop, I haven't discovered a way of reaching a position when I can type in anything. I am using this ancient Toshiba Satellite 1800-712. Many thanks oops I've now found terminal but what comes up doesn't make sense to me as a non-tech savvy person and I don't know what to type. I tried fixmbr but the screen froze and I had to re-start

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Old 03-24-2012, 03:03 PM   #6
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it seems like that laptop is so old that it cant handle all the features of modern operating systems, trust me i also have an old laptop i call it a CRAPtop but this os ais very small and comes with flash, java, a a more recent firefox much faster...

try SLAX http://www.slax.org/ (it lets you add modules and than click download .iso at the end at the top "build slax")
add these modules (just click add to build, to .iso on the website)

Latest flash player http://www.slax.org/modules.php?sear...ayer&category=
new java stuff http://www.slax.org/modules.php?action=detail&id=497
for WIFI http://www.slax.org/modules.php?search=wifi&category= (and get the blue one)

and remove office and other stupid apps to make iso smaller when you click "build slax" (at the top)


I recommend slax because damnsmall linux, and puppy linux kind of sucks...

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Old 03-24-2012, 03:33 PM   #7
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Thanks, I'm sorry but it is beyond me, wish I'd never taken up with Linux now, it looks as though I have an old laptop which will no longer work - shame as prior to all this it was at least working with XP but now everything has gone and am only left with GRUB
 
Old 03-24-2012, 06:52 PM   #8
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If your laptop is actually "ancient" you are wasting your time trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 on it. It's not more likely to work well if you ever managed to get it installed than something like windows 7. There are numerous Linux distributions which are designed to work on old hardware, which are much smaller and less processor intensive. A little reading about different distributions before jumping in would have saved you a lot of trouble. So finding a terminal with the Ubuntu CD won't help much as I seriously doubt it will run.

For older smaller machines you could try something like AntiX, Slitaz or Puppy or one of its derivatives. I disagree with the above members opinion on Puppy, it can be useful and lots of people find it so. You could also go to the "distrowatch" web site which has a lot of information and links to useful information or just google Linux on old hardware. If you find something you find interesting, I would suggest you do a little reading so you have some understanding of what is happening and you don't create a problem like you did here.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 04:07 AM   #9
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Thank you for that - I have actually been using Linux 8.something or other. I just thought I'd load it because I have used it in the past on my main pc via virtual box and liked what I found. Now as I've completely messed it up is there any way I can remove GRUB and get back to a really clean hard drive. Unfortunately I do not have the Toshiba repair/setup disk. Mayb I shall just have to consign it all to the tip.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 06:43 AM   #10
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The MBR is normally overwritten during an installation so there's not much point removing GRUB from the MBR before installing. You just have to find a distro to suit a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712 and install it from CD.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 09:33 AM   #11
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I think you want a windows bootdisk an old one. Once you get into DOS type:
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fdisk /mbr
this will reset your MBR.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 09:56 AM   #12
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Thanks Sydney - Unfortunately when I bought a new pc at Christmas I got rid of my very old Windows disks I am left with XP which I thought would be fine but it transpires it is an upgrade so when I install it asks for ME or earlier. Other than that it's Windows 7 that is sitting around my study. I'll ask around but I don't hold out much hope, thanks for the suggestion
 
Old 03-25-2012, 10:17 AM   #13
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I have actually been using Linux 8.something or other
Most Linux distributions give themselves names, I've never seen one simply referred to as "Linux". Since in your original post, you refer to trying to use Ubuntu 11.04, I would expect you have an old Ubuntu disk (8.04, 8.10??) The Live Cd should have an Install icon visible when you boot to the Desktop, do you see that?

Check the link below, is this the computer you have. If so, you can put your Ubuntu 11.04 CD as well as the windows 7 CD back in the drawer. They won't work. The big thing is the RAM, standard 256MB and maximum 512. With a new Ubuntu, the minimum is 512 to expect it to work at all.

http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.c...ODUCT_ID=16699

I think what Sydney was referring to is that you can download windows boot disks from different web sites for free. If you no longer have the xp install CD that won't help much. If you want to try some other Linux operating system, you could try the ones I suggested above or just google "Linux on older hardware".

If you post back, indicate whether the site above is your computer and someone may be able to tell you a system that will work on it.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 10:54 AM   #14
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Thank you so much you are being really helpful, it is me that is the idiot. Yes that is my laptop.

I downloaded a Windows boot disk MS Dos type and put it in the drive only for it to come up with the same error 22. Yes it was Ubuntu 8.10. Now if I boot from that disk I go straight into (eventually) the desktop, and I can see the install icon - should I try and install?
 
Old 03-25-2012, 12:25 PM   #15
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the "32-bit" flavor of http://crunchbanglinux.org/ may fit your old laptop, with up-to-dated software. Just download the disc image and make a CD...

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