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Old 02-28-2004, 06:05 PM   #1
b_cmorgan
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Got Lilo?


hey hey,

I'm gonna be putting 2 o/s's (knoppix & win2k) on 2 sepreate hdd's , i was advised to use LILO, I did a google search on it and it wasn't all that helpful, basically does someone have a link to a site where i can download it, and maybe a few tips on how exactly install it etc.

Any help would be great
 
Old 02-28-2004, 06:36 PM   #2
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You'd normally install the win2k to the one hard disc, then do the install of the knoppix, but telling it to install to the other hard drive, as part of the installation, you should be asked where you want to install your boot loader (and probably which one you want to install). The bootloader usually need to go on the first section of the MBR.

Personally I have only ever dual booted XP and a max of 3 different distro's from the 1 hard drive so it's hard to configure, but different from the config u require, but that should be straight forward (Id have thought).

Have a search here about dual booting with 2 hard drives. I've seen quite a number of thread about doing that.

regards

John
 
Old 02-28-2004, 06:56 PM   #3
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Got LILO

Can someone just help me out a bit here , a link or something , all this linux jargon and what not is a little confusing, i'm new to this , i've posted several times and although you guys try to help , i'm feeling lost here. I just want to use the knoppix linux , is it really this hard?
 
Old 02-28-2004, 07:24 PM   #4
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have you tried this yet

Quote:
Originally posted by bigjohn

Have a search here about dual booting with 2 hard drives. I've seen quite a number of thread about doing that.
as for lilo, have a read here

http://man.linuxquestions.org/index....ction=0&type=2

and knoppix is a cd based distro, it is possible to install it to the hardrive, have a look at this search.

http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr...=Google+Search

just fyi, we are willing to point you in the right direction, or even walk you through something tough, but, if you've tried nothing, and read nothing , we can help you with nothing.

Last edited by Peacedog; 02-28-2004 at 07:48 PM.
 
Old 02-28-2004, 07:55 PM   #5
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Re: Got LILO

Quote:
Originally posted by b_cmorgan
Can someone just help me out a bit here , a link or something , all this linux jargon and what not is a little confusing, i'm new to this , i've posted several times and although you guys try to help , i'm feeling lost here. I just want to use the knoppix linux , is it really this hard?
I'm sorry but if you don't understand Bigjohn's reply then your in trouble, theres no confusing linux jargon in there it was a simple reply. I'll give it a try, Whether you have windows installed already or not Windows will be on your first harddisk "hda" or "C:" when you install knoppix run the installer and point it to your second harddisk "hdb" or "D". I'm not sure about knoppix but it should install the boot loader and ask you where to put it you'd want it in your MBR. it SHOULD also automatically add Windows to the boot menu. B4 I dumped win all together I dual booted a few different distros and never had a problem (from same drive) but thats only the difference of "hda" or "hdb" or C: or D:. I'm sure the install program isn't great since knoppix is usaully only run live, it's kinda stripped, since it's based on debian maybe try that, although that SUX to install.

Just found LILO HERE!

Last edited by snatale1; 02-28-2004 at 08:00 PM.
 
Old 02-28-2004, 09:08 PM   #6
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where is the root console?

hey hey,

I've got issues now , i've installed the second hdd, it's brand new so there is no file structure of any kind on it at all, my computer does not even recognize it's there yet. Here's the problem , what i wanted to do was to use the knoppix to find the new non-partioned space and install from there. problem is that when it boots up (no problem) and i press ctrl-shift-F1 to get to the root console, all i get is a blank screen. Could this have something to do with my monitor? Is that not weird,
 
Old 02-29-2004, 12:10 AM   #7
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Try ctrl-alt-F1.
If your hard disk is not yet partitioned, Knoppix has QParted so you can create the partitions you need before install.
Once you are finished partitioning, you type "knx-hdinstall" from a command line and off you go!

Good Luck!!
 
Old 02-29-2004, 07:21 AM   #8
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blank screen on hdinstall

that's were i get the blank screen, it boots to the live cd part of knoppix fine but when i press cntrol alt F1 i get a blank screen ??? Is it something to do with my vid card ? Radeon 9600 atlantis?
 
Old 02-29-2004, 07:51 AM   #9
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Why is it necessary to even press CTRL-ALT-F1? From the DistroWatch review's instructions on installing Knoppix:
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So without further ado, put the CD into the drive and boot. At the "boot:" prompt, type the parameters you prefer, which in my case (once again) are:

boot: knoppix 2 lang=us vga=normal

and hit <enter>. You will now be at a root console. The application you want to run is knx-hdinstall (which is located in /usr/local/bin, and already in your PATH).

root@tty1[/]# knx-hdinstall
From the Cahtech review's discussion of installing Knoppix:

Quote:
After you have played around and decide that you like it, reboot, but type in knoppix lang=en 2 . When it finishes doing whatever it does, type in knx-hdinstall and enter.
I don't use Knoppix, but afaics what's happening here is that both these commands are intended to boot you to runlevel 2, which in this case is apparently a root console, and you then just run the installer (which will then run cfdisk so you can partition the empty hard drive).

It seems to me that you're making this harder than it has to be.

Oh, and in case you haven't found this out yourself yet, LiLO will be installed as the last action of the HDD install process (install bootloader), as it is in every other distro (whether the bootloader in question is LiLO or GRUB, a bootloader must be installed in order to install the distro).

Last edited by motub; 02-29-2004 at 07:53 AM.
 
Old 03-01-2004, 12:53 PM   #10
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Here's another good place to find out about using knoppix. There's even a forum about installing to the hard drive.

The problem might be that even when you actually do issue the command of

sudo knx-hdinstall

you're still going to be faced with a few decisions that might seem confusing, with out recourse to understanding some of the correct wording/jargon.

But, honestly, it "should" be reasonably straight forward.

The difference between installing knoppix, or trying say, Mandrake, is that mandrakes installer is many times simpler, but knoppix hardware detection is better.

Which kind of makes you "piggy in the middle".

regards

John

p.s. if you still have windows installation/recovery disc's then just go for it. Worst case scenario, is that you have to waste sometime doing windows re-install (or at least the windows boot loader).

Last edited by bigjohn; 03-02-2004 at 03:14 AM.
 
  


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