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Old 06-22-2005, 11:43 PM   #1
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Good Newbie Distro


im still trying out different distros to see which one is good for a newbie like me.
Would College linux, or Xandros Ver2 be good for a newbie. I mean one thats easy to use one that a person who nows nothing about linux can use. i have others but im would just like to learn one distro while on summer break from high-school i have nothing esle to do.
 
Old 06-22-2005, 11:47 PM   #2
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well instead of learning "one distro" why not learn a distro like gentoo or slackware that will actually teach you linux?

I'm telling you if you want to learn linux fast check out gentoo or even slackware:
http://www.gentoo.org/
http://www.slackware.com/
good luck
 
Old 06-22-2005, 11:53 PM   #3
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well i tried slackware 10.1 but to me it seemed a little hard plus i had to install configure for the vga card and other stuff i dont know.. Gentoo i have both cd mini and unaer. which one should i use. And May i ask how will i learn linux off gentoo and slackware. ANd so what college and Xandros are harder for a newbie.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 12:46 AM   #4
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Gentoo or Slackware (among others) "teach you linux" because they don't feature proprietary distro GUI tools. I am trying to say if you learn linux on a distro like Gentoo or Slackware you will become more familiar with the command line and that is the heart of linux. But even if your new to linux Gentoo can be a good choice just check out the online documentation:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/
But if you insist on a "newbie distro" I would suggest SuSE because I have heard many users say they like YaST(which is GUI based) on the other hand I have also heard a few people say they like ubuntu...

As for your slackware 10.1 issue that you mentioned it sounds like you had a issue in your xorg.conf file which is generally very easy to fix...

I guess to sum it up, if you feel like learning go with gentoo, slackware, etc If you want things to come easy with almost no work or learning, then yeah SuSE, ubuntu, xandros, whatever

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ANd so what college and Xandros are harder for a newbie.
I did not mean to imply that college and Xandros would be hard for a newbie

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Old 06-23-2005, 12:58 AM   #5
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Originally posted by dx0r515t
Gentoo or Slackware (among others) "teach you linux" because they don't feature proprietary distro GUI tools. I am trying to say if you learn linux on a distro like Gentoo or Slackware you will become more familiar with the command line and that is the heart of linux not some proprietary GUI tool featured in other distros designed for those inexperienced linux users.
Have to disagree on this Slackware issue again. I think your giving people the wrong impression by saying they will learn Linux with only a few distros. Sure a lot of distros have GUI installers and package management front-ends to make it easier, however, you choose wheather to use them. You can install just about any distro and use it in CLI and never even install X services.

I think SUSE would teach you Linux just as Slack would. It all depends on how deep you want to get into it.

KC
 
Old 06-23-2005, 01:01 AM   #6
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you make a good point kencaz, I guess you can't tell that I love gentoo and slackware
 
Old 06-23-2005, 01:12 AM   #7
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I to Love Slackware, I still have the original 8.1 install on my laptop, never had a problem. I too would recommend it, however, It's just to hard recommending a distro to someone. They just have to try some out, and find the one they are comfortable with. It can be frustrating even with all the GUI stuff, but that's what makes it fun, and when it works you have yourself to praise.

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Old 06-23-2005, 01:35 AM   #8
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Please stay away from SUSE. SUSE has their own ways of doing things that are not the LINUX way. I would suggest Mandrake 9, Redhat 9, and Fedora to novice users. I strongly suggest staying away from Mandrake 10 or Mandriva 10, because it is poorly put together.

Gentoo is easier to install than Slackware. Gentoo uses stages to install it. For people that want to just install LINUX, use stage three. Read the installation howto at Gentoo's site very, very carefully. Depending on the computer system, Gentoo can take between a few hours to a week to compile and install.

RPM, Redhat Package Manager, are nasty as you progress in learning Linux. You will found out that Gentoo will be better than any distribution on terms of upgrading and installing programs.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 01:42 AM   #9
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I would suggest debian, it have a wonderful apt-system that makes it very easy for you to get new programs and such.
I started with debian and it was a good choose I think,
Just wanna add that its very easy to update anything with the apt-system like the kernel.

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Old 06-23-2005, 01:55 AM   #10
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MEPIS and Xandros are considered the best for new Linux users who want to get productive in Linux as soon as possible without having to master all its complexities. On the other end of the spectrum, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware and FreeBSD are more advanced distributions that require plenty of learning before they can be used effectively. Mandriva, Red Hat, Ubuntu and SUSE can be classified as good "middle-road" distributions. Knoppix is a so-called live CD - it is great for trying out Linux without getting your hands dirty as it runs directly from a CD, no installation required. http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

MEPIS will get you started. If you really want to learn how Linux works, give Slackware or Debian a try. PCLinuxOS is a good newbie distro and a great LiveCd.

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Old 06-23-2005, 02:04 AM   #11
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craigevil, I dont think debian is that hard as gentoo, gentoo need a lot more of reading to get it work, much compiling etc. Debian is a great os for the person that wanna learn linux and not compile everything. The most you ever would like you can use the apt-system for in debian. Gentoo have a similair system I think. But just the installation of the debian is very easy compared to gentoo in my oppinion.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:53 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by kencaz
Have to disagree on this Slackware issue again. I think your giving people the wrong impression by saying they will learn Linux with only a few distros. Sure a lot of distros have GUI installers and package management front-ends to make it easier, however, you choose wheather to use them. You can install just about any distro and use it in CLI and never even install X services.

I think SUSE would teach you Linux just as Slack would. It all depends on how deep you want to get into it.
I think dx0r515t is right. One week Slackware tought me way more, than about half a year suse. With suse I just learned, where which thing can be done via yast. With slack I figured out, how it works for *nix.
Sure you could edit your configs by hand in suse too, but who does that? And if you mix yast and editing by yourself, it gets ugly sometimes.
Apart from that I know a few people using Suse, actually for a longer time than I use Slack. I'm pretty often astonished, how few they know about their system. Some of them couldn't even change their X resolution without yast.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 04:09 AM   #13
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You could be right "Zord", I have not used SUSE enough to make a comparison with Slack, I was only using it as the example "dx0r515t" had recommended. Again you made my point, however, saying you know people who use SUSE for a long time and can't understand it. Not all Linux users know machine code or even what X is, but that's fine if it works for them.

KC
 
Old 06-23-2005, 04:44 AM   #14
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Sure, if he just wants an easy distro to replace Windows, then Suse is a great choice. I think it's the best one of all the "newbie distros", I've tested (Suse, FC and Ubuntu).
But my (and I think also dx0r515t's) point was, that he won't learn linux this way.
I didn't intend to say, that this was a bad thing. He should just be aware of it.
 
Old 06-23-2005, 08:23 AM   #15
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Well thats what i want i "Want to learn linux over summer break" but i have no idea what im doing in linux its hard for a newbie like me that doesnt know so much about it as long as i can get internet on linux then it would be alot easier so i can look up doc's. And download stuff. And also read up thing that would help me to learn Linux. And Suse i couldnt even Mount that thing when i tried it was hard,RH dont get me started that thing was to much for me.
 
  


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