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Old 07-01-2007, 12:53 PM   #1
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Going to install linux, have allready chosen a distro, have few general linux Qs


Hey there, I'm going to install Linux. I have played around with it a little bit before when I was still in high school but stopped pretty fast as I gamed most of the time. I don't game as much anymore and spend most of my time updating my knowledge of IT. Anyway, I have 2 main question.

1. When I first installed Linux you could read/write on the FAT32 format. However, you could only read and not write on the NTFS format. I am just wondering has this changed?

2. 32-bit or 64-bit? At the time I first installed Linux 64-bit didn't exist. So I am wondering, since I am new to Linux, would it be better to install a 32-bit version? Or does 64-bit install and run just the same? Should I do 32-bit first and after I get more comfortable with Linux move on to 64-bit?

Thank you for your answers, I appreciate it.
 
Old 07-01-2007, 01:22 PM   #2
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I know that with suse, I am able to read and write to NTFS partitions, You have to uncheck the read only option when you are setting it up, but you should be able to read, and write.

I would still use a 32 bit distro since some things, especially drivers, will not work in a 64 bit distro.
 
Old 07-01-2007, 03:00 PM   #3
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Since all drivers are part of the kernel, all drivers work on a 64 bit distribution.

The only issue you may run into is with proprietary software that interfaces with 64 bit applications. For example, Adobe Flash for Firefox. There are tools to work as compatibility layers in that case (nspluinwrapper for the example given). Alternatively, you can just run a 32-bit version of the application on the 64-bit distribution.

Running a 64-bit environment is more complex; I been running that way for about 3 years now. Unless you have a particular application that needs to exploit the performance of the 64-bit environment (e.g. video encoding/transcoding), you are better off as derekalan18 indicated going 32-bit.

For write access to NTFS volumes, the NTFS-3G filesystem is available and works. Most major distributions have either upgraded to it, or made it available. It provides better write support than the older NTFS Linux filesystem, and can even be run in userspace with FUSE.

Linux gaming has also come a long way. There is a long list of excellent Linux-only games. In addition, the current WINE compatibility libraries allow many more Windows games to run on Linux. You may be giving up less than you think.
 
Old 07-01-2007, 05:42 PM   #4
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yeah I've heard about the programs that emulate directx so you can play windows games... but you have to pay for that right?
at least the ones I heard about anyway...
I won't be able to game while running linux anyway, cause my sound card is not supported..I have an X-Fi
since I won't even be able to listen to music or watch my favorite shows, I'll only be running linux so I can learn how to use it...


so if I want 32-bit and I have an Athlon3200+ I'm going to install i586 right?

I would have thought x86

but all the downloads I see are either i586 or x86_64 witch is the 64bit version right? I'm not sure as I don't know a whole lot about architecture.
 
Old 07-01-2007, 05:49 PM   #5
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for playing games you would want to get wine, you can get it from http://www.winehq.com, there are other things based off of wine that cost money, but wine should be good enough. i586 is the x86 version, so if you want x86 you should download that.
 
Old 07-01-2007, 06:15 PM   #6
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Cool thanks a lot. I tried downloading Mandrake, but their torrents seem to be down. Cause when I click on their links(witch are the same on this site) it just gives me page cannot be found in firefox.

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Old 07-01-2007, 10:48 PM   #7
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Ive never tried mandriva, but a lot of people like ubuntu or kubuntu, I like suse the best, but its up to you really
 
Old 07-02-2007, 07:33 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitram
Cool thanks a lot. I tried downloading Mandrake, but their torrents seem to be down. Cause when I click on their links(witch are the same on this site) it just gives me page cannot be found in firefox.
Mandrake? Are you downloading an Old version? It was renamed to Mandriva several years ago. Not a very good distro in my opinion(SLOWWww)

I'd recommend either one of the Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, or a pure Debian install. For what its worth, I'd probably stick with 32bit, but thats just me. Some of the hassles(like as mentioned, browser plugins), just aren't worth the hoop jumping to me.

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Old 07-02-2007, 08:25 AM   #9
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no I was gonna download mandriva, I'm just used to calling it mandrake is all... I was gonna go 32-bit... it's just that I wanted a simple distro to start with, so I was gonna download that one... I downloaded Fedora last night, but haven't started anything yet.
 
Old 07-02-2007, 10:04 AM   #10
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From experience:

If u have net on the PC that is in question, ubuntu is the way to go.. apparently, updating and trying new software is only (extremely) easy on ubuntu if it's online.

If u have no net, on that PC, fedora is the way to go.. downloading rpms and installing gave me no problems. Ubuntu has rendered me a newbie in its use coz I'm offline.

I have only used Kubuntu 7.04 and Fedora Core 4.

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Old 07-02-2007, 10:23 AM   #11
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If you have a Athlon 3200+ I guess you have a 32 bit CPU (?), so not much choice there...
I would have gone for 64 bit Linux if I have a 64 bit CPU. 64 bit Linux has been around for a while now so any issues should be minor (or fast becomming so).

I am dual booting for the occational game and use NTFS-3G for write support to NTFS drives, no issues there, very stable.
 
Old 07-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #12
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If you have a Athlon 3200+ I guess you have a 32 bit CPU (?), so not much choice there...
I would have gone for 64 bit Linux if I have a 64 bit CPU. 64 bit Linux has been around for a while now so any issues should be minor (or fast becomming so).

I am dual booting for the occational game and use NTFS-3G for write support to NTFS drives, no issues there, very stable.
actually it is a 64bit processor

I forgot though, that I run my system in raid...

is it hard to setup raid for Linux?
 
Old 07-02-2007, 02:44 PM   #13
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Ive never done it before, but it doesnt look hard.
 
Old 07-02-2007, 09:52 PM   #14
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Fedora installs LVM by default these days.
 
Old 07-03-2007, 10:44 AM   #15
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actually it is a 64bit processor

I forgot though, that I run my system in raid...

is it hard to setup raid for Linux?

Aha. I have an Athlon 3200+ myself, but that's a 32 bit, didn't realise there is a 64 bit version of that.

I moved from Ubuntu to Fedora because it handled my sata-raid harddrive better (although Ubuntu have been updated since, so might be ok now).

Despite a few minor issues with 64 bit, you might as well go on 64 bit OS now. You can then help the rest of us when we move over to 64 bit when we replace our current systems . After all, within a year or two, most of us will be running 64 bit OSes...
 
  


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