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Old 08-24-2004, 08:25 PM   #16
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I don't use Gnome so I can't recommend any solutions to the original issue however routinely running as root is a highly risky move, because all it takes to damage your system beyond repair is to make one typo. In fact the only time you should ever run as root is in a small number of specific circumstances (such as when you are installing new packages).

Instead, you should ordinarily always run as a regular user. Regular accounts cannot modify system-level files or directories, and therefore the worst mistake you can make as a regular user is to lose your own personal data. In contrast, the worst mistake you can make as root could cause complete and total system corruption, with your only option being to totally reinstall Linux from scratch. That can ruin your day really fast, believe me.

In short, I would strongly recommend against running as root unless you have a specific task that requires root privileges. -- J.W.
 
Old 08-24-2004, 09:10 PM   #17
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yea i understand your point j.w....and that was just my point, everything looks fine when i log in as root, however thats not a good thing, because its still pretty much broken, as i would never run a normal session as root...
 
Old 08-27-2004, 03:07 PM   #18
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ok i still havent found a solution for this but i believe it has something to do with the gconf configurations. i noticed if i open the gconf editor under a normal user, there is 3 folders to the left but none of them contain any keys. however if i am logged in as root and run gconf editor, there is quite a few folders to the left, one of them being "font_rendering" which has a key for the d.p.i. set to 96, and all other folders have keys defined....now that i think i have narrowed it down to this, i have no idea now to correct it
 
Old 08-28-2004, 01:40 PM   #19
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ordering makes the difference

Hi,

I gave up with garnome, I just wasn't happy with the way things worked together. Since I had been installing loads
of different window managers on the system I decided it was time for a clean out. So reinstalled the whole system - hmmm what fun.
From the installation menu I selected gnome (2.4) rather than KDE-system, and everything works a treat - whether logged in as
root/or normal user.

Now what is it about SuSE's customisation of KDE/Gnome that makes them incompatible? No matter how many times I
deleted all gnome related directories from the normal users $HOME, SuSE never generated a gconf/gconfd/gnome/gnome2
structure that gave icons/menus/working keyboard that I have now. Weird.

It might be worth someone trying an uninstall of KDE, followed by an install of gnome to see if that's the conflict here. Otherwise,
I'd definitely recommend waiting for SuSE 9.2 - should be here in a month.

Cheerio, Skunk.
 
Old 09-07-2004, 11:39 AM   #20
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missing icon text in gnome

I've had the same problems. Lots of times. The missing icons text is not missing. It is just so small that you cannot see it easily . How to fix it? I found that I had to change the DPI for the fonts to "96". So how do you do this when you can't see anything? Login using KDE as your window manager, go to "Gnome Control Center" and then to "fonts", then click on what should be the "details" button at the bottom of the page, and then on the next window (at the top, there will be a very small but barely visible form space) type in the number (I use a 17" Flat Panel and have 96 DPI, which is a common DPI for regular monitors too I believe). Then close the window and it ought to be OK. It is kinda hard to do when the fonts are minuscule, but I have done it. Why this happens, I haven't figured out entirely (I have several hypothesis).

Good luck.
 
Old 10-14-2004, 12:20 AM   #21
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any luck? i just tried xiamian 2, but noticed its does not support SuSE 9.1.

lame-
 
Old 10-14-2004, 06:27 AM   #22
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Nah - I gave up and stuck with Gnome 2.4 installed from the start. I have seen lots of post on suse-linux mailbase about people having some success with gnome 2.8 as distributed on
http://www.usr-local-bin.org/linux.php

But then I read that SuSE 9.2 will only have gnome 2.6 - this seems a bit silly, since I heard that a whole lot of things got fixed/improved in 2.8 - oh well

Skunk
 
Old 10-14-2004, 12:10 PM   #23
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I really like SuSE 9.1, and really am starting to like Gnome. I just want a way to marry the two?

Please advise...
 
Old 10-14-2004, 12:13 PM   #24
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After reading the SuSE section on this page:

http://gnome.org/start/getstable.html

It sounds like Gnome is installed by default with SuSE 9.1 Personal? Is this true?

If so, the solution to using Gnome on SuSE 9.1 Personal isn't that bad....

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Old 10-14-2004, 12:16 PM   #25
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Unhappy Ditto

Hi,

Totally agree with you there - why not join the suse-linux mailbase, and search on gnome. There are a few pertinent emails there which discuss how to get hold of the latest version of Gnome - basically until there's a consensus on the best way to install and configure Gnome such that you don't lose out on all the niceties that SuSE put in Linux I will stick with SuSE's gnome 2.4

I mean it can't be that difficult to arrange for Yast to be on the System menu, and for the icons to appear correctly. What we need is either a comprehensive install guide, or a script that downloads and configures everything for you.

Yours,

Skunk.
 
Old 10-14-2004, 12:27 PM   #26
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Thumbs down nope

No, SuSE is KDE all the way! You have to select gnome at the install.

Skunk
 
Old 10-14-2004, 01:08 PM   #27
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Where can I "select" this at? Because I totally would....

I've look in all of the fields under KDE, Software etc but to no avail...


In the setup is there a way to install a display manager too?


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Old 10-14-2004, 03:11 PM   #28
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hi

Is there no section where you can select window manager?

Failing that, I guess gnome isn't distributed with the personal ed.
If you have high speed internet access, you can easily install the
Pro version using the SuSE ftp servers. There are loads of threads
telling you how to do this, and I know for a fact that you can select
gnome as part of the Pro install.

Cheers,

skunk
 
Old 10-14-2004, 04:48 PM   #29
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I guess I will go pro then...
 
Old 10-20-2004, 11:43 AM   #30
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went, pro and it works like a chram...
 
  


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