Well considering ill be doing gaming, wine, and i have a fairly powerful system. i would like a stable system but ofcourse the latest software

i just want ease-of-use included, like, easy ways to configure wine and install a patch etc. ubuntu was easy with apt-get and the good ol make/install features

And ofcourse i want great hardware compatability, and to avoid this problem i have with ubuntu

ive heard of arch been great for speed etc, but debian looks fairly in the stable area, its really hard to choose haha

Do you think arch/chakra ( i love chakra for the easy sides ) is better for the whole gaming scene ( and yes im aware gaming isnt perfect in linux yet, but trine is pretty fun xD )

If you want the ease of use and the latest software you can also go for Debian Testing or Debian Sid. But as always, if you choose to run a rolling release distro the system may break from time to time. I didn't have many problems with Arch, but keep in mind that it may happen. If you are really into gaming then I would prefer Arch over Debian. But with todays sizes of harddisks you can also set up a dual boot system, Debian (or any other stable distro) for your everyday use and Arch for gaming.

is chakra a good medium for arch? like archs good i know, and its not that tough, i just couldnt be bothered with the "week of pain" and chakra is based of arch

i realise it doesnt use the same updates and repositrys, but im sure you can just add them cant you

From the Chakra forums:So if you want Arch, go for Arch. If you want it pre-configured and are not sticked to KDE you may want to give Archbang a try, it is Arch with Openbox and uses the Arch repos.

well i really like the fact that archbang is on a livecd and all but openbox really isnt for me, so my question is, since archbang makes the arch install easy

is it possable to switch from openbox to KDE or gnome using archbang and make it like a fresh arch install without the week of pain

I've still got a 6600GT. Not a bad card, pity its AGP so I cant use it in any of the modern systems I've got hanging around here.

Yeah, the GTX460s are a fair bit faster than the 5770, and they do overclock pretty well if your into that.

LOL, part of the reason why I stopped using the ubuntu forums was I was sick of people just saying 'get an nvidia card, or get a laptop with an nvidia GPU'. The card thing, OK, no problem, but seeing the same people saying 'get nvidia laptops' when they had been in several threads where people had bought optimus laptops and simply couldnt get the nvidia GPU running drove me nuts. (optimus has no offical linux support, its sometimes possible to get it going with EDID files, or BIOS switches, but thats hit and miss)

If you want a DVD version, TobiSGD is right, DVD#1 is all you need.

I dont bother with debian DVDs myself, I perfer the CDs. The nice thing about the CDs is that you dont use as much download, and you can get them with whatever major DE you want. There are versions for gnome, the 'normal' CD#1, and a different CD#1 with XFCE/LXDE and another CD#1 with KDE.

From the CD image page KDE CD and XFCE/LXDE CD are normally own the bottom of the listing.

BTW, if you are even considering arch, you might prefer debian 'testing' over stable. Newer versions of everything, and depending on your definition 'testing' is a rolling release.

ok ive got Debian 6.0.1a installed with the KDE Desktop, but im abit confused, weres the package/software manager?, i found an aptitude(terminal)

but i cant find any update managers, software or package managers, well at least gui versions

@nankura Open terminal and type:
Then if need can also install software center from synaptic.