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Ok hopefully i can get a response here, im yet to recieve any helpful responses as of yet towards this subject
Ok first up my setup
AMD Phenom 2 955 3.2
4GB DDR3 G.Skill Gaming Ram
HIS ATi 5770 GFX
Ubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 tested 32 bit
Latest wine compiled with the needed patchs
all 3D Games under wine run at a very low fps even with the lowest graphics settings, this includes starcraft 2, league of legends, css, etc. using the latest ATi driver and 11.2 and the "tested" additional drivers ubuntu auto installs and yes i followed all the guides to improve performance under wine in all my games and all the custom patchs
Even native games such as Trine, cop lag spikes, and choppyness
Now this does not happen under windows, so i know my card and computer are healthy as can be, there new parts. in windows, in the same games, i get up to 200 fps +
The only conclusion i can come to is an incompatability with ubuntu and the latest ati drivers but i cant find anyone who can confirm this or that has a similiar setup and the same problems
I also see people with better or lower ati cards, some with the same, running these exact games in linux on high graphics with no lag
Now, abit of a turn around is, Trine and native games ran smooth as can be in Fedora 14, i cant remember what drivers i used, i followed there yum guide, but it ran extremely well and with no glitching in the exact same spots were i would glitch heavily in ubuntu
Tho i was unable to test wine games because i couldnt figure out how to compile wine in fedora with a patch i need to run my specific games, in ubuntu it was easy using sudo and apt-get
the only response i got from the ubuntu forums was "get an nvidia card"
I realise wine isnt perfect, but, fact is. other people have these games running fine on similiar cards and setups
I dont know if there using different drivers, or if im doing something extremely wrong or missing an important detail
I would also like to know this..in meantime one important difference between Fedora and Ubuntu is software release versions. Are you running same Wine version as you did on Fedora? Fedora likes more newer stuff so that should be my guess why it works better(i also had good experience running few games). Are your friends using Ubuntu(same version or close?) aswell with similar hardware? However ugly truth is - Windows-only games will work best only in Windows..dual-boot maybe?
I do dual-boot unfortantly, i really wish i could switch but hey what can ya do
Ok onto the situation, yes the people i saw on youtube had similiar setups and got these games running fine, i dont know them personally :P or id probably know what im doing wrong
Fedora 14 was the version i was using, and for some reason ive just had a better gaming experience in fedora, i just cant figure out why because come to think of it, i think the ATi driver version was the same
Wine was the latest version with patch's compiled on ubuntu by my own hand that are specific to these games
I get that windows works great with games and linux is 100% yet, but i know for a fact that these games run fine on similiar systems ( and majorly exceptional on nvidia systems )
It was native linux games as well as wine games to btw, Trine is linux native, and it chops running across the first bridge in ubuntu and lags on and off, that doesnt happen in fedora
P.S - , in ubuntu i tried the repo drivers, the auto additional drivers that ubuntu suggests, and the latest ati drivers from the website with building the packages specifically for ubuntu on 10.04 and 10.10
Then it's pretty much mismatch with hardware..you see Linux is kernel and distributions are different homes build on it as base and sometimes they just don't fit. Same happens when you try distributions to find one you like - some will work great some won't for you and your computer.. If that game worked on Fedora and|or you have legit Windows 7 on which game also runs i don't see why such pain going through wierd decisions - put back Fedora or use Win7.
nah it wasnt an idea from the forums, it was just the only 460 that we had at work haha, i traded my old ATi 5770 and 5670 for it, i know not the best deal out there, but ive wanted an nvidia card for months ( im not an ati fan, i miss my 6600 GT )
but im not complaining, like, regardless of the ubuntu issue, the 460 SE GTX overclocks like a beauty and was a notice-able upgrade from my 5770, the 460 SE rocks, its a beast!! and holds a 10x more steady fps than my 5770 and stopped my windows 7 lag spikes during games, and its sexy and dual fans and im inlove with it haha
Anyway, im getting off topic ( i also see what your saying about the ubuntu "get an nvidia group" , every ubuntu user with a sig has an nvidia card and its all they say there ")
im going to try out chakra and debian tonight ,ill let you guys know how it goes. tho with debian i get confused, i go to there http download links and theres a million d1 and d3 isos and files, i just want one iso for a dvd lol so i have no clue what to download
Chakra is based on Arch, Sabayon is based on Gentoo. Both are rolling release distributions, so that you will always get the latest software, but it may break sometimes. So you should know your system good enough to fix it, if that happens.
Debian is a really stable base, but is (if you use the stable version) using a bit older software versions. At the time I used Debian I also had Arch installed on my system only for gaming. Just because It always has the latest Wine. I had no problems with that. I never used Sabayon, so I can't say anything about that.