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Old 04-23-2006, 10:26 AM   #16
alred
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>> "I'm giving up on Linux"

after reading your story ... i think my story is worser than yours ...

i give up on linux because she cant play music !! can you believe that !! ... infact during that time i dont really find the need to research(so-called ^_^) further into "how the hell why cant i just play some music !!" ... but i have to say that it doesnt hurt me that much when i ditched linux for i still have my alternatives(many times better at that time i guess) ...

but somehow , eventually i still came back to linux because i am bored with my "alternatives" , they are always the same , their image doesnt click well with my music i guess ...

but come to think about it(if only you cant really solved your modem problem)... linux doesnt really to be connected to the internet inorder to use it ... you can still try buying some books or magazine about linux , they usually come with cds full of third party linux applications for trying out ...


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Old 04-23-2006, 10:26 AM   #17
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In truth, it's fair to say that there are times when it seems such a "culture shock" to have to do things manually that the first thing you reach for is "mamma's titty" aka a microsoft product.

They do spoon feed people far too much.

Plus, if you read some "linux is wonderful" article in a mag or some place similar, it belies just how much work and effort some problems can be.

Yes, I can remember how much hassle it was for my to set up a speedtouch ADSL USB modem (the one that looked like a turquoize cow turd). It took me two weeks - fortunately I had the sense to dual boot, so I just nipped back into windows to get things done that needed a net connection - until I'd managed (not without considerable assistance I might add) to sort it.

I also ended up having one of those "hallelujah" moments. When I learned that it would be much easier to get myself a modem/router device and a network card.

The original poster, obviously believes that his/her ISP wouldn't send out a piece of junk because it sort of works and is really cheap (nah! of course they wouldn't do something like that would they).

Why do you think that they're so "popular" - cos they're cheap USB junk, thats made reasonably locally i.e. in the EU I believe, by a French company.

Irrespective, the way forward that I found, was the modem/router/network card route - I've never looked back. It's been easy to configure. Reliable. Stable. etc etc - yaddah yaddah!

Anyways - I still class myself as a sort of "advanced novice". So I certainly don't consider "matters linux" easy, but they're certainly not that hard.

If any of those suggestions and others posted don't help, then

"Ta Ta mate, and have a nice life"

regards

John
 
Old 04-23-2006, 10:29 AM   #18
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I see what you mean. In those terms, I'm planning on marrying mandrivalinux so to speak, and filing a divorce with Windows
I had tried mandrake, most was nice on that, few issues. tried suse, seemed nice, but had a load of issues that seemed to take me farther back vs mandriva.
example: I couldn't edit my own files. access denied. I NEED to edit some files from time to time, NEED TO!
I know how to in mandriva/mandrake, but suse was not allowing me to.
being i was doing well with mandriva, i just stuck with it. I really just want one OS, and not go back and forth with OS's
 
Old 04-23-2006, 10:44 AM   #19
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nah ... Dogman2 , cant you just see for yourself ?!
how authentically highly articulated *nix heads could be at "moments of feelings" every now and then(in fact quite oftenly) ...

a kind of regret seeing you leaving us ... and thats for sure ...



//oh boy ... we do hope that we are literally talking to somebody ...


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Old 04-23-2006, 10:54 AM   #20
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I was mad because my CD player wouldn't work. However, the tip is ask for help. I asked that site I went to a ton of times, planetdescent (really just a PC game Descent forum, but with a techinal section), and they told me that I need a "redbook?" connection. It's basically some wire going from the CD-ROM to the mainboard. Once I got that, boom, it worked! I was happy. Little by little, each fix gave linux more points, and the more I got going, the more I love it, and the less I care for windows. Printing was another issue. I dont print a lot, but it'd be nice to print. The printer made its normal sound, but nothing was on the page. Turns out, being I only have black ink, I needed to set it in the properties, "grayscale", and boom, it works! To tell you the truth, I suppose some would have that "culture shock" as someone mentioned earlier, but to me, I was quite pleased to be on here. I loved how it looked, it felt like a vacation so to speak (not the usual windows issues, activating the products and bizarre problems, etc) I did give up on it a few times in the past, hardly anything worked, and tried it only a week, but at one point, I said, I am going to learn this. Mandrake 10.1 lasted about 3 or so months, maybe more, than I switched to Mandriva, and still going

One final note: If I "KNEW" that 90% or more software/hardware would be compatible with linux, and I could survive without any "you need windows only for this software/hardware", I would toss Windows XP right in the trash, no kidding. I'm tempted to do that now, but I won't. I find windows WAAAAYYY TOOOOOOO BLLLAAHHHH compared to Linux.

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Old 04-23-2006, 11:10 AM   #21
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>> "One final note: If I "KNEW" that 90% or more software/hardware would be compatible with linux, and I could survive without any "you need windows only for this software/hardware", I would toss Windows XP right in the trash, no kidding ..."

and you must be kidding !! right !? ^_^ ... but at least the free software movement is still in it ... so ... Dogman2 , come and join us now , experience the eventual triumph(actually kind of) of linux , you wouldnt want to miss that "hallilujah" moment ... right ??


btw :: JBailey742 ... where did your breaking paragraphs go ??


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Old 04-23-2006, 01:57 PM   #22
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Hi again
I've not replied as yet as I have spent another frustrating day trying to get the modem working.
I started with ubuntu but it failed to recognise the modem and after trying to install it using the Steve Parker instructions it still would not recognise it and I was getting messages such as 'tar child cannot open no such file error is not recoverable exiting now.' and 'tar error exit delayed from previous errors' I do not know what they mean.

I then tried to install it on Xandross with virtually the same result as with ubuntu. I googled other sites and followed other instructions. After two days I thought I had got it working but it did not and could not find out why. The main messages I get are always along the lines of 'no such file or directory' or ' no such device' 'error not recoverable exiting now'

I was told that Mandriva would be able to get it going so I tried to install 10.1 but for some reason it would not fully install and I would get the messages unable to install package .... etc. it would then lock up everything and the only to reboot was to switch off as even ctrl alt backspace would do nothing.

At the moment I have suse 9.3 installed but am still unable to to get the speedtouch 330 modem working as I am told there no network card installed. I know there is no network card so where do I go from here. The help file is not much help the whole system take several minutes to react to what I am trying to do from the time of clicking on the next button to something happening. My system might not be the latest but I have an AMD Athlon processor runnung at 700 mHZ.
I think I am posting to the correct forum being a newbie.
I have tried other forums and still get the same results, references to Steve Parker and others. I am not conversant with shells so do not know what the commands are even from from "Running Linux" and . I do not know what is the right command etc. for something and have to follow through the book.

I have been used to connecting hardware putting in a disk and within a few minutes up and running. After three weeks of trying I cannot find where to go from here.
 
Old 04-23-2006, 01:59 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogman2
Hi again
I've not replied as yet as I have spent another frustrating day trying to get the modem working.
I started with ubuntu but it failed to recognise the modem and after trying to install it using the Steve Parker instructions it still would not recognise it and I was getting messages such as 'tar child cannot open no such file error is not recoverable exiting now.' and 'tar error exit delayed from previous errors' I do not know what they mean.
Tell us EXACTLY what you do and give the EXACT output.
 
Old 04-23-2006, 02:11 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Dogman2
Hi again
I've not replied as yet as I have spent another frustrating day trying to get the modem working.
Thats the wrong way around it. What you are doing is: Posting your friendly 'im giving up' post in a super 'we want to help you out' community, then you disappears for DAY to get your problem worked out! Thats odd.
Don't do that

Give us the details, about the modem offcourse Do you have any errorlogs you can post?

regards,

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Old 04-23-2006, 02:27 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Dogman2
I have been used to connecting hardware putting in a disk and within a few minutes up and running. After three weeks of trying I cannot find where to go from here.
Dogman2, why waste your time using trash modem? Go to ebuyer and spend 22 quid and get a modem with an ethernet connection, it will take minutes to set up and plug in two computers and provide a firewall. JOB DONE!
 
Old 04-23-2006, 02:51 PM   #26
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agree with previous post...

I know it's cool to get things working with what you've got...boy, do I know....obsessive-compulsive disorder...compiling source rpms to get unsupported cards working....putzing around with config files...but you've got to ask yourself...how much is your time worth? Even at minimum-wage levels, it's not worth more than a few hours of your time....just google some sites to find out which modem is supported/auto-detected..then get it and spend your time enjoying linux....
 
Old 04-23-2006, 05:49 PM   #27
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At the moment I have suse 9.3 installed but am still unable to to get the speedtouch 330 modem working as I am told there no network card installed. I know there is no network card so where do I go from here.
Yikes, that's a little complex for a newbie.
Which method are you using? I do find the Steve Parker you mention and another mentioned in one of your previous posts.
The second does mention a command to stop the query for an ethernet card at the bottom of the page under "ANNOYANCES".
 
Old 04-24-2006, 06:08 AM   #28
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modems and inux is a bad combination. My experience. Get a router and spend your time on other things.
 
Old 04-24-2006, 08:29 AM   #29
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Hello Again
This morning I switched on the computer and it started after about eight minutes I got the following message
'no valid root partition
cannot read file /etc/fstab
initation of target system not possible
boot failure from ide -1

It then sat there doing nothing, no matter what i did on the keyboard no response

Is this a bug of somesort or what has happened.?
 
Old 04-24-2006, 09:17 AM   #30
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Wait speedtouch modems work with linux.
If you don't know how to make it work that is because you don't know how linux work and that is because you don't need linux because windows is good enough for you. Investing some time learning the new thing is perhaps not worth it if all you need is web surfing... until you need more.
I hope you know how to install and update an antivirus on windows and have done so. That should make you fine for some years (if you have a recent version that is still supported).
Good luck.

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