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Old 03-12-2005, 11:19 AM   #1
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Getting Started with Mandrake Linux?




I am traditionally a windows user but want to run a dual boot with Mandrake 10.2.

So,

Is it worth it? I don't have a high level of expertise with computers, just the basics. Will i run into a lot of problems using Linux?

Can i create a partition for Linux without deleting all of the stuff i currently have on my hard disk?

Is the installation user friendly (for idiots) or will i need to set up anything complicated. Anything more than following an on screen prompt would probably throw me.

I think once i got the thing up and running, i would probably be ok. Especially if i had a windows system to use in an emergency!

Thanks for any help in advance, i can imagine this is an annoying kind of post...
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:28 AM   #2
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Re: Getting Started with Mandrake Linux?

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Originally posted by hastapronto


I am traditionally a windows user but want to run a dual boot with Mandrake 10.2.

So,

Is it worth it? I don't have a high level of expertise with computers, just the basics. Will i run into a lot of problems using Linux?

Can i create a partition for Linux without deleting all of the stuff i currently have on my hard disk?

Is the installation user friendly (for idiots) or will i need to set up anything complicated. Anything more than following an on screen prompt would probably throw me.

I think once i got the thing up and running, i would probably be ok. Especially if i had a windows system to use in an emergency!

Thanks for any help in advance, i can imagine this is an annoying kind of post...
1) Yes, it is worth it. You might run into a few problems but if you are dual booting thn they will be trivial as you can always log into windows.

2) Mandrake will create a partition automatically for you WITHOUT damaging your windows data.

3) It is point and click installation

4) Yes, thats the benefit of dual booting.

Good luck and welcome to linux
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:34 AM   #3
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hastapronto

Remember to 1st Defrag the windows drive that is one important point. Plus backup on CD or seperate drive etc any info you CANNOT replace.

Problems only usually occur with a really old, really new or odd hardware, other wise its pretty good install wise with Mandrake and Suse, heck even Fedora Core(x) is good.

Regards
Allan
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:35 AM   #4
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Mandrake is pretty easy to setup.
They have gui wizards for most things, and unless you've got any really exotic hardware, expect 99% of it to work out of the box.
Winmodems don't work though, so if you're still on dial up, this might be a bit of a problem, and although there are resources available to get them going, my experience with them has been very hit and miss.

You can resize your Windows partition using the Mandrake installer (no need to buy partition magic or whatever) but you must do some maintenance on your windows partition before you resize it; run scandisk and defrag before you resize otherwise you might run into problems. Depending on what you want to do with mandrake really depends on how big a partition you need to create. If you want to install most things and have a bit of storage for files etc then I'd recommend about 8 -10Gb. This can be reduced though - like I said it really depends on what you want to do and what you want to install...

The actual install process is very easy to follow, so you shouldn't have any problems there.

HTH.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:37 AM   #5
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Linux installer can automatically resize your Windows partition (without data loss) and create necessary partitions. Or while in Win you can create/resize partitions (Partition Magic, for example) and then during the install of Mandrake you can choose those partitions for Linux (you'd have to choose manual partitioning and specify what goes where).
Hope this has partially answered your question. Overall, being a Linux noob myself I found the installation very intuitive, just don't forget to read carefully everything that comes up. I suggest reading some step by step instructions available on the net (google it) where there are screenshots that can be very helpful - print it and go along.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 07:10 PM   #6
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Brilliant!
Will Mandrake let me to create a third partition for storing stuff i want to use on both operating systems?
Think i have everything i need to get started. Thankyou for all your help.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 07:13 PM   #7
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Well, there is an expert option in the installer which will let u create a third partition.. you can always access windows partition from linux.

Good luck
 
Old 03-12-2005, 07:43 PM   #8
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Best to have at least 10 gigs for a dual boot, I usually run 3 windows drives ( C, D & E ) and Mandrake will need about 4 - 5 Gigs at least.

For example on a 20 g HDD I would use 4 gig for Win C, 6 gig for win D and 4 for Win E and use the remaining 6 gig for Mandrake.

As was said make sure you do a scandisk, defrag and backup of all your data ( including drivers ) onto CD Rom.

The installation is pretty newbie friendly and the disk partition tool is IMHO the easiest to use. You will need to use custom partitioning when you come to that part of the install

read this
http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/Mandrak.../Starter.html/

Do some homework first

HTH
floppy
 
Old 03-12-2005, 08:02 PM   #9
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Heres another page

http://www.littlewhitedog.com/content-52.html

if you click on the images you will see full size ones

http://www.littlewhitedog.com/view_i...partitions.jpg

This one shows you what to expect when you do a custom install
although if you have one windows partition and nothing else then hda will be all blue. In that case you would click on the blue area and select resize. Resize the blue down to a comfortable size and then click on the white area ( empty ) that has now appeared and select create. Create one or more FAT ( windows ) partitions and then create your linux partitions. when you create your linux partitions Mandrake will offer you a suggested size, you will create first the root ( / ) partition then swap, user,home, var & temp.

when you are happy with what you have created click on done

do this on paper first and
Back up your data

live long and prosper
floppy
 
Old 03-12-2005, 09:28 PM   #10
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Also, If you have some extra cash, you can purchase a copy of Partiton Magic 8(which runs under Windows) and use it to resize your partition. This is particularly useful if you are running WinXP on a NTFS partition, as that can (sometimes) be difficult under Linux. I've done it using a Knoppix CD and it worked perfectly fine.

Also, just as almost everyone else has said, DEFRAG YOUR DRIVE FIRST. I WOULD RECOMMEND DEFRAGGING SEVERAL TIMES. While resizing, fragments toward the end of the disk tend to be lost, or limit how small you can shrink a partition to.

Theres my 2 cents
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Dj_dubbz
 
Old 03-12-2005, 09:33 PM   #11
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This is my advice as a newbie to make things simple. My experiences lead me to not recommending Mandrake. They say it is good because of the GUI's but I found Fedora Core 3 to be just as good at making the transition process from Windows easy.

Also before I install Linux I change my file system on Windows Xp into fat32. Linux can't write to the ntfs file system but it can with the fat32 file system. So if anything goes wrong after I install Linux, like say I can't log back into Windows for some reason then I can use Linux to change Windows files around and fix the problem.

After the installation you can change the filesystem back if you want. I don't though because if Windows ever messes up...which it will because it is unreliable, Linux to fix it. Also this way I can download music on Linux and save it to Windows. By saving it on Windows from Linux, Windows and Linux can see the files and play them. Thats my 2 cents
 
Old 03-12-2005, 10:06 PM   #12
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MalachiX

I believe that is erroneous. I have a network of WinXP pro and a FC2 gateway, the linus box talks to the NTFS partition perfectly.
Using Fat32 will disable what little security you get with WinXP. I suggest you check out some literature on linux - NTFS. Ill search for a link when i have time. I did not do anything major with my FC2 install just used the Samba config tool supplied.
Hope this clears things up a bit.

Regards
Allan

---EDIT
mmm, Id like to state here that after searching the LQ site for a few links i found that NTFS writting is dodgy at best with Linux.
I may in fact have the second (backup drive) formatted as Fat32, the machine is down at present so I cant check. I therefore wish to retract the above till I check it out.
Sorry MalachiX and all for any confusion, but i think i have edited this swiftly enough to limit any possible confusion.
OberonKenObi throws himself out of a Window(s) onto a soft bed of Penguins.


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