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Old 02-11-2003, 05:12 PM   #1
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Getting Started From Minimal install


How and where do I start picking up binaries and installing them for my new minimal installation of RH.

Lets see I, I don't even have Xwindow on this so I will need KDE or Gnome or Both I guess with a choice at the beginning as to which I'd like to use...

Beyond tha tI would like to figure out how to install and configure apache and ftp. I would like to setup up also mailserver and use web mail on it.

The apache I want for Gallery 1.3.x its a photo sharing Prog.

Ftp for fun..

and also something like a CLI IRC client.. Bitchx?

I don't know.. I need some Ideas of how to install PHP/netpbm/imagemagick/ and more stuff for gallery to work...

However I also am just a beginner with the Unix system layout.

I am doing this so I can begin to familiarize myself with the ever changing Networking Biz. I am currently an MCSE.. and need to diversify my knowledge.

so let me know!!

Thx
 
Old 02-11-2003, 08:29 PM   #2
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With all that stuff you're planning to install, it doesn't seem like very minimal RH install. I'd just grab the RH CDs, and do a full install. Then, trim out what you don't want later. You could also probably do an expert install of some kind and tell it what do NOT want installed. However, if you're going to be installing KDE or Gnome, you'll need to install XFree86 or they'll be useless. Seriously, I think your best bet is to do the full install of RH and then uninstall the stuff you don't want/need later. Or, if you're really interested in building your own custom minimalist Linux distribution, check out LFS.

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Old 02-12-2003, 01:16 AM   #3
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With all that stuff you're planning to install, it doesn't seem like very minimal RH install. I'd just grab the RH CDs, and do a full install. Then, trim out what you don't want later. You could also probably do an expert install of some kind and tell it what do NOT want installed.
What I find to be the easiest way to go is to select the `custom' install and make sure to check the box that lets you select all packages. You can trim out the things you know you don't want before loading it onto the system. And be brutal in your trimming. Anaconda will let you know if you've tailored out something that another package requires and will automatically re-select the dependent packages. Plus the custom install doesn't go out and wipe out the entire disk like some of the other standard installation options do.
 
Old 02-12-2003, 11:09 AM   #4
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Okay.. everytime I try a custom install from txt install or GUI it has serious problems with a couple of packages... so I stay away from major packages.

I want to figure out how from the ground up. Basically start from very low and build up a couple of times. For me its the best way to learn.

I want to later figure out the whole name server junk and MX records for Mail-Hosting. These things are later for me. Right now I want to make sure I understand compliling source and installing Binaries.

The ones I want to start with are like the Galllery install. I was able to get this going under windows but I would like to have it on a more reliable platform (however I don't understand reliable). I get all excited that my windows server is coming close to 150 days uptime and I call that reliable!!

I need a box that runs for the uptimes you see on Cisco Routers!!!


Anyway... I am able so far to get Apache installed with defaults.. however the whole PGP thing and NetPBM and ImageMagick and more stuff like Mod_rewrite is where it gets a bit cluster F$%$ED.

Again..my Object is learning the whole deal then gettting better slowly... working with packages I need now and later moving in the direction of Mail Server and Samba... like for Remote File Storage.

Keep feeding me Ideas!! thx
 
Old 02-12-2003, 04:39 PM   #5
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I want to figure out how from the ground up. Basically start from very low and build up a couple of times. For me its the best way to learn.

I want to later figure out the whole name server junk and MX records for Mail-Hosting. These things are later for me. Right now I want to make sure I understand compliling source and installing Binaries.

<SNIP>
Did you check out the link I posted earlier? It's Linux From Scratch. You need an existing Linux distribution on your system so you can use the compilers, editors, and kernel. Then, you just have to download all the binaries from the site. Follow the instructions with their online book. Basically, you're building your own custom Linux distribution from the ground up. You're not adding anything to your existing Linux distro, your just using its tools to compile and edit everything for your own distro. It sounds just like what you're looking for. I guarantee you'd learn more about your system and Linux with this than any other way. However, it will most likely be VERY frustrating at times. I'm actually thinking about doing this myself as I want to learn all I can. I'm a sink or swim kind of guy so this LFS seems like it would be really good for me. I think you'll probably benefit too as it is forcing you to do what it is you're wanting to do. It's something to look into anyway.
 
Old 02-12-2003, 05:16 PM   #6
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Dude Thank YOU...

I totally Missed that Link..

I appreciate it.. and thank you very much.

I am also sorry about not being able to read that the first time...
 
Old 02-12-2003, 05:45 PM   #7
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You're welcome, and don't worry about missing the link. It was only 3 letters long--not the most noticeable link. Hope it helps you out some.
 
  


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