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Old 03-31-2007, 05:19 PM   #1
dariusjd
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Getting Linux


So, I sent a request for a free Ubunto CD but I think its not what I want.

How do I download Linux (any linux os; fedora, ubunto, etc) and erase Windows XP so that Linux will replace it.

I don't want Windows anymore, I just want Linux...and I can't find anything on the net except .iso files. I don't want to burn a disc, I just want to download the OS and wipe Windows XP away. How do I do this?


Also if I find a way to delete Win XP and leave my computer with no OS and install Linux via disc, would it stay like that without the disc? And if so, how do I delete Win XP and repartion my hard drives?
 
Old 03-31-2007, 05:21 PM   #2
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Also, I do not want to dual boot, I just want Windows GONE.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 05:25 PM   #3
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I don't want Windows anymore, I just want Linux...and I can't find anything on the net except .iso files. I don't want to burn a disc, I just want to download the OS and wipe Windows XP away.
Sadly, we don't make the rules for how others behave. In the case of Linux, you can either download the iso and burn a DVD, or you can check the magazine racks at the local bookstore. If neither of those options are satisfactory, then you might want to consider staying with Windows.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 05:26 PM   #4
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you either have to (properly) burn the .iso file as a bootable disk or image disk or whatever your burning software calls it. there is another option to install over the internet, but you would still need to download and burn a CD to boot that from.
i dont think theres a way around not having to download and install at least one CD.

how come you dont think ubuntu isnt what you want? i would highly recommend it as it is very user-friendly and great for new users.

edit: if this is the only computer you have access to, i would recommend dual-booting, at least until everything is set up. if you remove windows and after installing whatever linux distribution, you come to find your display doesnt work.. or your mouse.. or keyboard.. or network card... you have no way of visiting this site to ask for help! if you have access to another computer then i would think its a good idea to completely remove windows, as you wont (shouldnt) have problems with booting.

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Old 03-31-2007, 05:57 PM   #5
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No. I have a Windows XP disc incase my drivers aren't supported.
So i'm not worried about that.


So i'll just wait for the startup disc to come in the mail.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 06:05 PM   #6
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You cannot just download Linux and wipe out Windows, you need to have a disc of Linux. For what you want, you must entirely erase the hard drive before installing Linux. In erasing the hard drive, you would delete the Linux files necessary for installation; which obviously makes installation impossible.
I know that with earlier versions of Windows, you would repartition the drive using FDISK in DOS however since XP has no DOS I am unsure? I imagine that the only way to delete Windows would be from a boot disc of some sort.

May I ask why you do not want to use a CD?
 
Old 03-31-2007, 06:08 PM   #7
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I have a Windows XP disc incase my drivers aren't supported.
How would that help you? You seems to be thinking that you can actually use XP drivers under Linux, or am I wrong? The thing is: you cannot. That's precisely why people recommend dual-booting at first.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 06:36 PM   #8
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You may wish to read the Linux is not Windows article.
 
Old 03-31-2007, 09:44 PM   #9
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Another thing, if you don't want to spend the time and effort downloading, burning, and installing Linux, it may not be for you. Linux is not a simple, everyday user OS, although it may be in the future, some initiative has to be take by the owner.

As far as wiping your drive, if you really don't want WinXP on there, forget reformatting. I recommend a purge. This is where downloading, burning and initiative come into play. Why not just reformat? Any viruses you have on the HDD will still be there, almost like a "subconcious state". If you purge it, it rewrites the binary-all 1's to 0's, if that doesn't mean anything to you-thats OK. To put it in terms you may understand better, it is what government organizations use to wipe drives they don't ever want data recovered from.

So...download Knoppix-its a live CD, then follow this thread for directions.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 12:16 AM   #10
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I don't want Windows anymore, I just want Linux...and I can't find anything on the net except .iso files. I don't want to burn a disc, I just want to download the OS and wipe Windows XP away. How do I do this?
The advice to consider dual booting is good advice.
Assuming you know what you want, here are some articles that discuss installing from an ISO on a hard drive partition. Frankly, burning an install CD is going to be easier.
http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.p...g_without_a_CD
http://www.bobpeers.com/linux/hard_drive_install
http://soft.zoneo.net/Linux/install_from_hard_disk.php
http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
Both Suse and Debian offer "netinstalls" but downloading a small CD ISO is required to start the installation.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 12:45 AM   #11
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If you just download Linux, install it and wipe out XP, I guarantee you'll probably be reinstalling XP in about 5hrs(maybe less).

What was the problem with Ubuntu? As Stated, That might be the most newbie friendly distribution there is.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 02:09 PM   #12
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Alright. I'll go ahead and burn a Live CD and dual boot. =D

I just wanted to do away with Windows.

But i'm worried that my mouse or keyboard won't work.
I wonder if the manufacturer offers Linux drivers...
 
Old 04-01-2007, 02:19 PM   #13
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Other good newbie distros are Mepis and PCLinuxOS. If you have a LiveCD that works and you can get linux running, and the internet is working from the LiveCD, go ahead and wipe Windows. It will be an option during installation when setting up the partitions.

Mouse and keyboard will more than likely work out of the box. Some of the multimedia keys on the keyboard may not work out of the box, but those can be set up later.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 03:28 PM   #14
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How would that help you? You seems to be thinking that you can actually use XP drivers under Linux, or am I wrong? The thing is: you cannot. That's precisely why people recommend dual-booting at first.
Well, having the XP disc means he could reinstall XP if Linux doesn't work out.

Wiping Windows is a big step, not something I'd recommend to the new comer.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 05:28 PM   #15
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But i'm worried that my mouse or keyboard won't work.
There is a 99.9% chance your mouse and keyboard will work, don't worry about that. If you have multimedia keys, they may not all work, though you may get lucky. The keyboard I'm using has multimedia keys that needed some driver disk I'd lost long ago to work under Windows but worked out of the box on Kubuntu with no real needed configuration.
There is a short list of hardware that is likely to cause problems:
1.) Wireless adapters (USB especially, your best bet is PCI)
2.) Video cards (Nvidia and Ati have good Linux drivers, but a lot of distributions don't come with them by default. If you choose Ubuntu, read the Ubuntu Wiki for info on these drivers and more: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ )
3.) Lexmark Printers - Run far, far away from this brand. Their printers don't even work right under Windows for me anyway. I can tell you, however, that HP printers work great in Linux most of the time though if it's a printer/copier combo the copier part may not work.

When in doubt, Linuxquestions.org has a Hardware Compatibility List here:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
 
  


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