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Old 11-12-2003, 04:41 AM   #1
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gentoo/redhat


does gentoo and redhat have the same features? does gentoo have kde? can i install everything that i had in redhat to gentoo? even all the stuff from kde-look.org?
 
Old 11-12-2003, 05:38 AM   #2
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You can install anything with gentoo but you have to use 'ebuilds' to compile it and if there is no ebuild available compile it yourself.I found that kde is much faster on my box with gentoo.
If you got a slow machine I wouldn't advise you to use gentoo - it takes forever to compile things and if it fails you get to do it all again.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 12:22 PM   #3
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Well, from the sig you can see the specs are more than enough. So go ahead, try Gentoo! Actually you can do much more on Gentoo than on most other distros. Only Debian has more packages (afaik).

For example, right this moment I am installing KDE-3.2.0-beta

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Old 11-12-2003, 03:24 PM   #4
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i have 56k right now... and i dont want to download anything else that i dont already have, i have a ton of rpms and stuff from redhat on cd... does gentoo come with kde? lol noob question.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 04:09 PM   #5
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ooh, then i would not recommend you using getoo. Although it does come on 2 CD's (which are downloadable from getoo.org), they would not have ALL the latest stuff on them. If you want to really get the best out of getoo, get broadband. If you cannot get fast internet, i would still not recommend RH. Mandrake seems nicer.
Personally i have used lots of distros (as you can see from my distro list) and right now i cannot wait to get broadband so i can install gentoo, but while i am on a 56K modem, i do not want it.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 04:39 PM   #6
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gentoo generally doesn't "come" with ANYTHING, if you want an applciation, there are currently about 40,000 only packages you can automacitally download, far more than any other distro. there are prebuilt versions of gentoo available, but you would still be serriously missing out from not having a fast connection.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 01:54 PM   #7
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can somebody explain to me how to install gentoo. I downloaded the images and all of the directories were burned correctly but when i changed my bios setup to boot form disk one inorder to install it, my computer boot up. This was printed out on my screen. "Press F1 to retry or press F2 to enter setup."
 
Old 11-13-2003, 03:17 PM   #8
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There are very good install instructions on the www.gentoo.org. Print them, follow them to the letter, or you will be sorry.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 06:31 PM   #9
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Actually the instructions are also on the CD you burned.You can have them open in one terminal and install in another one.But something was screwed up with the instructions on my last install.What I remember was that: the stages tarballs weren't where they were supposed to be and to make matters worse lynx wasn't there to download them either - it's links now.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 07:05 PM   #10
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lol i tried to install it too... it said type /mnt/files/install.html for install help and i did not understand any of it.. i tried for like an hour and could not understand how to install it.

i have cable internet like every other weekend if i need to install some stuff... i have it right now until saturday so can you guys please list the stuff i should download so i can buyrn it to a cd to use later?

should i jst stick to redhat until i know alot more about linux?
i loove redhat 9... i have all kinds of themes and mods for it... cant install all of them yet but i really like it...

whats so good about mandrake?

whats so good about gentoo?
 
Old 11-13-2003, 07:48 PM   #11
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Do emerge -f kde or gnome or whatever desktop environment you want and the same for any other app you need.That will only download what you need if you have a gentoo box at the connection.If not it gets a little more tricky - you'll need to get the portage tree on your box and do the same as above only with emerge -p whateverapp and see what it spits out.Download all that then with the other box.

If you are thorn between gentoo and mandrake gentoo is probably not for you.Mandrake is more of a beginner friendly distro and gentoo is not.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 11:47 PM   #12
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so wheres redhat rank?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 12:25 AM   #13
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RH is dead. But general consensus is RH, Mandrake and SuSE are 'friendly' and Slack, Debian, and Gentoo are not. Stuff like Core and probably Sourceror, Arch, etc. - any source based distro (Gentoo excluded because, with its documentation, user community, and 'emerge' system it's supposed to be easier) - all these are less friendly than that. Lindows and Libranet and Lycoris and anything based on Debian that begins with an 'L' and costs a lot of money are supposed to be the absolute 'easiest'.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 01:02 AM   #14
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so if i learned alot in rh already should i master it then go to gentoo?

what do you suggest?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 03:24 AM   #15
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Well, RH is still Linux so I don't know that there's any 'mastering' it. Just getting further along the path in that direction. *g* But if you mean 'get generally familiar and comfortable and basically capable' then that could certainly be a benefit. On the other hand, there may not be much impulse to improve if you're using RH and stuff's just going along. Maybe taking on gentoo would throw you a bunch of challenges that would actually help your efforts to master Linux. (On the other hand, gentoo on dial-up probably would be a screaming pain.)

Anyway - I can't really tell you. Why do you want to switch anyway? I'm in a similar position: I don't want to switch but I do want to try either Gentoo or LFS, myself, as a secondary system. For myself, I'm doing a lot of reading and trying to patch some basic holes in my, er, skills, but I'm not going to wait for 'mastery' - when I finish up some reading, I'm going to take a crack at them, regardless. So that's basically what I recommend - don't wait for some guru-moment to come hit you on the head , but don't dive in with your eyes closed either. Just do some research and give it your best shot.
 
  


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