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Old 07-17-2014, 10:32 PM   #1
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Gateway DX4850-41C does not shut off computer on quit.


For a little background check this thread:
Linux Mint 16 Petra 32bit vs mint 17 Quaia

In that thread I mentioned this problem:

One other item that has been ongoing before these last mint-mate-meta downloads. When I shut the computer down, The screen changes to the Little Linux Logo, on a blank screen, however I still have to manually shut the computer power off to get a complete shut down.

As this is unrelated to the original problem I decided to start a new Thread.

Was this happening in Windows 7, before Linux.? No.

Was this happening in the KDE version,? YES

I burned a new DVD and completely reinstalled the Linux Mate version, and I still have the same problem.

Any suggestions, further questions etc.. Thanks.
 
Old 07-17-2014, 11:24 PM   #2
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What happens if in terminal you do

Code:
sudo shutdown -h now
Quote:
For a little background check this thread:
Linux Mint 16 Petra 32bit vs mint 17 Quaia
No link to check that out with.

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Old 07-18-2014, 12:18 AM   #3
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What happens if in terminal you do

Code:
sudo shutdown -h now
Basically nothing.. Here is the error code:

ModemManager[775]warn) could not acquire the'org.freedesktop.ModemManager1'Service name.

[54514.934401] reboot: Power Down

End: The screen goes like a terminal screen and hangs there. I had to manually shut down and restart the system. I tried the regular "Quit" Shut down and it also still hangs on the complete shut down.

No link to check that out with.
Sorry here is the link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ia-4175511095/

Thanks for your suggestion..
 
Old 07-18-2014, 01:33 AM   #4
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The devs are working on this problem, it is hard to pin down because it is not consistent. I have 3 machines running MATE and 2 of them have this problem. Read this https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate...ager/issues/53 and post any information you have with this issue at MATE's github. You will notice I have posted in this bug report as well and quite frankly wasn't happy they were ignoring Debian Wheezy (they have since done some work on Wheezy but the issue still remains).
 
Old 07-26-2014, 01:53 AM   #5
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I have read this in another page. that going to the 1.6.0. version fixed the problem.
Quote: Downgrading to version 1.6.0 (MATE repositories) End quote:
What is the procedure to give this a try.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 02:53 AM   #6
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Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend doing this because you will end up running unsupported software. Mixing versions can create problems so you may inadvertently break other parts of your OS.

Ok if you must try this you can either:
1. enable the repository for Petra in your sources.list and then force Mint to use the package from MATE 1.6, or
2. enable the MATE repository for Ubuntu Saucy (which Petra is based on) by following the instructions on the MATE wiki.

Once you do either of these things you will need to pin the package because it will update to the 1.8 package if you don't.

I am interested if you have followed the advice already given here, such as posting of your problem in the MATE github page, because it appears as though you are reading material but not letting us know where you got it from. If you are using other sources, on the internet, for help it is a good idea to actually post a link to the information directly so we can see if it is good advice and advise you accordingly.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 11:48 AM   #7
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Thank you, k3lt01.. Here is the link, Which I think came from one of your suggested reading links.

https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate...ager/issues/53

Quote:
sunweaver commented on Apr 12

Forwarding Debian bug #744264 [1] to upstream:

Package: mate-session-manager
Version: 1.8.0-1
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

Since I installed mate-session manager 1.8.1 it is impossible to shutdown or
reboot the system as the only effect I have is a normal logout from the MATE
session.

Also tried with the 1.8.0 package taken from the MATE repository and the
problem is the same. Downgrading to version 1.6.0 (MATE repositories) solves
the problem.

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/744264

End Quote:

As a senior, new to Linux, new to forums, I am learning what all I am supposed to include for backgrounds. Again as a senior, I am wise enough to listen to those who have knowledge of the Linux system, and I am therefore taking your advice set out in the "Disclaimer" Thanks. I will keep watching for a better way to fix this problem, as I do not want to screw up what I already have.

Other than the extra step, does a "HARD Shut Down" have any ill effect on the computer itself, if done continually.?

Thanks again for your assistance.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 05:01 PM   #8
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Thanks for that Harvey, I forgot about Sunweaver's initial comment. I'll give it a go on my other machine and see if it does indeed help but it still leaves a problem of unsupported software later on.

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As a senior, new to Linux, new to forums, I am learning what all I am supposed to include for backgrounds.
I generally tell people to include things like there hardware, exactly what has happened, and exactly what they have done to fix it. Sometimes people try many things to fix problem that just make things worse so knowing what they have done is important.

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Other than the extra step, does a "HARD Shut Down" have any ill effect on the computer itself, if done continually.?
I would suggest computers have a soft shutdown option for a very good reason and that helps with longevity of the system. I leave my i7 Haswell, which is one machine that has this problem, running while I am home and only shut it down on days I am working away from home because of this. Apart from that I do not really know the answer to your question.

Have you joined the official MATE forums? If you haven't I suggest you do.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 06:27 PM   #9
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Quote: Have you joined the official MATE forums? If you haven't I suggest you do.End Quote

I have joined the Linux Mint Forum, but I was unaware of any oficial Mate forum. I will check into this.
 
Old 07-26-2014, 08:13 PM   #10
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Quote:
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Quote: Have you joined the official MATE forums? If you haven't I suggest you do.End Quote

I have joined the Linux Mint Forum, but I was unaware of any oficial Mate forum. I will check into this.
http://forums.mate-desktop.org/
 
Old 07-28-2014, 11:01 PM   #11
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k3lt01, I have now joined this group. I am still watching my other forum for further suggestions.
 
Old 08-18-2014, 09:38 PM   #12
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Gateway DX4850-41C does not shut off computer on quit.

With reference to this posting:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...it-4175511458/
In a nutshell, here was my problem. Linux Mint17 Qiana Mate 64bit, when shutting down, would not shut off the main computer.. The desktop closed but I had to manually hold the stop button until it shut down.

Now, I have two other computers running Linux Mint 16 Petra Mate 32 bit, and I have no shutdown problem with that download. A couple days ago I asked, can I use the 32 bit OS on a 64 bit computer, and the consensus was yes..

I downloaded the Qiana 17 Mint Mate and burned my new DVD.. Booted up the new DVD, and installed the system on the 64 bit computer.. Wonder of Wonders, my system shuts down perfectly.. As I had backed up all my files and photos, I have now re-loaded most everything, and so far I am happy camper..

I wanted to share this with everyone on this forum, just in case someone else is having the same problem.

Thanks for all the information, suggestions etc., that I have received. This is a great group.
 
Old 08-19-2014, 12:28 AM   #13
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The problem isn't a 32 vs 64 bit problem. I have a 32 bit machine that has this problem as well as a 64 bit machine that has this problem. It can happen in Wheezy and Jessie (Debian), I am not sure how many (Ubuntu based) Linus Mint versions it happens on. You can dual boot 1 machine with 2 installs of the exact same version and it can happen on 1 install and not on the other. As far as I can tell some of it at least depends on the installation itself and how the installer sets the machine up at installation time.
 
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:34 AM   #14
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Well, that puts yet another twist on this problem.. I have been told by the people in the "Know" that the problem is very spasmodic, which makes it difficult to put a finger on.. Your point seems to verify this very fact. I am however very happy that it has worked for me.. For the time being, i am going with the idea "If it is not broken, don't fix it." I'm up and running and I will leave well enough alone until I see there is a better fix..

Thanks for the additional comments.
 
  


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