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Old 10-10-2003, 01:21 AM   #1
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Post Fragmented Hd


FRAGMENTED HD. This is my 1st try at installing
Linux, Mandrake 9.11 (from CD Spanish PC Actual
mag). I have winME , 236Meg memory, 80GB HD.
Win and my progs occupy about 4Gb, plenty
of room to make a partition. So... disk boots into the Mandrake set up, I choose Spanish, Sp keybrd and
next is a triple option.
1. Kill windows,
2. partition spare space and have a Linux partition.
3. For experts....

I pick 2. But get message saying disk is too
fragmented. I run defrag several times and also
Norton Speed disk. Both tell me the disk is not
fragmented but the Mandrake installation
sequence insists that it is and I have to defrag.

I would be most grateful if anyone has an idea on
what is making Mandrake feel the HD is fragmented.

PS I did peek into the expert (3) option and this at
some point said the HD can't be partitioned.

Thanks Fred
Madrid
 
Old 10-10-2003, 03:08 AM   #2
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Have you got free space, spcae on the drive that is not part of a partition? Option two works well if there is unallocated space in the partition table.

Linux uses different file systems than Windoze. It sounds to me as if you are trying to use option 2 for a formated existing partition. Is this correct?

The approach I usually use is to make free space available using a program like Partition Magic. This allows preserving your existing Win partitions, then use option 2. Hope this helps.
 
Old 10-10-2003, 04:04 AM   #3
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Thank you Cliff.
Yes, you are probably right in that there is only one partition. But the mandrake install option2 seems to imply that there is some utility included in the mandrake boot disk that can split this only partition and let you chose how much for windows and how much for linux.

Anyway, I 'll hunt down Partition magic and try out your suggestion. If I understand you right, make a blank partition, say 20GB. Then try and install mandrake there
More Cheers Fred
 
Old 10-10-2003, 09:57 AM   #4
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It sounds like you are putting the disc in when windows is running ? If so, put the disc in and reboot the PC, then let it do the default stuff, following the questions as you go, you should be able to select the Spanish options.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that it is good practice to do a defrag and back up any data "just in case", but mandrake should be able to re-format the hard drive space anyway.

Regards

John
 
Old 10-10-2003, 01:48 PM   #5
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Thank you as well John (and Cliff).
In this particular case, the CD doesn't run if win has started, past the message "boot from CD". As for my data, it is all backed up on CD so apart from the hassle of a complete collapse and then doing a new format, I haven't much to lose.
This is the first time I have ever tried to format and I've just found a copy of Partition Magic 8.0 It recognises my HD and when I suggested a 20GB for the Linux it accepts this and shows the 60Gb remaining for WinME.
I'm going slowly ·treading on eggs" because it warns me about not recognising the CD drive and that I should use Bootmagic to rename. I'm learning I hope. They also recommend a rescue disc. Any other advice Cliff or John, before I bite the bullet?

Thanks for your moral support.

Cheers
Fred
 
Old 10-10-2003, 01:52 PM   #6
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yes yes definatley use boot magic. It will help you if lilo screwa up the mbr and you have to "rescue" win98.

Also - make a new 98 rescue floppy disc just in case.
 
Old 10-10-2003, 03:00 PM   #7
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I have used Boot magic, but it was with an OS/2 system and W2k. I have never had a problem with LILO I coun't fix with the Linux Install CD. I'm teaching students how to do multi boot systems. We have used W98, W2k and Linux. The only thing to watch is the install order. W98 must be on the primary active partition, W2K can go anywhere you have enough disk space. We usually leave a 6 gig space for linux and pick option 2. LILO handles this without a hitch.
I have W98 and Mandrake 9.1 on my home machine. W98 is there mostly for the family to use. You should be all right with your setup.
 
  


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