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Old 01-22-2011, 01:57 PM   #1
NNatedawg28
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Wink Formatting and partitioning a harddrive for Ubuntu 10.10 as the only OS


Hello everyone. I have only known about Linux software for the past couple of weeks. I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 on an older desktop I have so I can become more familiar with it. I am average in knowladge about Windows OS and MS-DOS. I tried to install Ubuntu and I get an error message about the harddrive. The CD I am booting with will load on my other PC with Windows XP on it. I have only let it run on it long enough to verify that it is bootable. I have made a floppy boot disc following the instructions on another Linux site about Ubuntu. I have also tried to boot my alternate PC with the floppy and it boots up. The harddrive on my working PC is a Maxtor 40gb formatted with NTFS file system. The harddrive in the older desktop is a Western Digital 80GB WD800LB-55DNA0.
It worked fine with Windows XP on it. I also made a Western Digital DATA Lifeguard for DOS floppy and it boots with it. Any advice would be greatley appreciated.

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Old 01-22-2011, 02:12 PM   #2
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I would use gparted-live-cd to resize partition to make space for Ubuntu.
During installation choose side by side.
Ubuntu"s installer will partition for you if you allow it to.
 
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:37 PM   #3
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If your machine is currently running Windows, and you've only known of Linux for a couple of weeks, I'd recommend using WUBI to install Ubuntu Linux alongside Windows. That way, if you decide you're not a fan of Linux or would still like to have Windows around for gaming, it's an option. It's also extremely easy to install and use, so it lets new Linux users get used to Ubuntu before completely doing away with their proprietary OS.

If you are definitely set on it being your sole OS though, I'd recommend G-Parted for a GUI (graphical) partition editor. If you're not afraid of text-based partition editors and know what you're doing, cfdisk works well. As EDDY1 said, Ubuntu wants to do to partitioning for you by default, so you might just need to specify you want a full install.

Also, check out this how-to for deleting Windows while running Windows.

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Old 01-22-2011, 02:49 PM   #4
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Hello NNatedawg28, welcome to LQ,
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...I tried to install Ubuntu and I get an error message about the harddrive. The CD I am booting with will load on my other PC with Windows XP on it...
could you please tell us more about the errormessage? haven't you even been able to boot the CD with the laptop?

Markus

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Old 01-22-2011, 03:57 PM   #5
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A screen comes up and says Smart Boot Manager 3.7.1 at the top left corner. Then I have a boot menu in the center with different options. I try to select the option to boot from floppy. When I do I get error message
Disk error! 0*03. I formatted the drive with the Western Digital Data Life Guard for DOS. I have tried to format it in NTFS, FAT32, and FAT16 and no luck. I also looked up the WUBI installer. I think Im going to try Ubuntu on my working PC so I can see what its like. The PC I was going to use as a Ubuntu only OS is 10 or more years old. I just wanted to try the Ubuntu OS to what its like. I was also thinking of putting a server together and running Ubuntu Server on it. I priced Windows Server 2008 and its insanely expensive. Thats how I stumbled upon the Linux programs. I had heard of it before but didnt know much about it. I think its really cool that its all open source. It is also very well supported by its developers and users.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 04:02 PM   #6
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Did I understand you correctly, that you booted a CD and choosed "boot from floppy"? why that?

Normally when the CD-bootmenu comes up, you'll simply have to press the enter-button.

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Old 01-22-2011, 04:23 PM   #7
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What's make and model of machine?
Are you trying to use floppy disk to have cd support? Because most linux installers have cd support already, only windows need cd support for older machines. Go into bios make cd first boot priority.
If you just want to install Ubuntu as only os when It asks where select erase and use entire disk.
You also have memory requirements, you should see if you have enough for that distro.

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Old 01-22-2011, 04:28 PM   #8
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Hi,

I think EDDY1 is right, we'll need to know more about the computer. How much RAM, and which processor?

If it's a really old machine, the recent version of Ubuntu will probably not run properly on it. There are other derivatives of Ubuntu, like for example Xubuntu, with a lighter Desktop-environment which would run better on old computers.

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Old 01-22-2011, 04:42 PM   #9
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Wink CD Booted but getting different error now

I didnt know that Linux could boot an older PC. When ever I installed Windows on older machines I usually had to boot up with 6 different floppys to load drivers then restarted and switched to CD ROM. The PC is a HP Pavillion 510w. The message I recieve know says
tput error
can not mount /dev/loop0(cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on flesystem.squ
ashfs
Thank you very much for helping me with this.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 04:56 PM   #10
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mh, as I stated in my post #8 I think that Ubuntu 10.10 is to "big" for an older PC. Could you please provide information about RAM and processor?

I'd suggest to look at Slax, it's a Slackware based Live-CD, it boots up very well on older systems but cannot be installed: http://www.slax.org/ If you can boot Slax, you may find out more about your hardware with the
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lspci
command and you can partition your harddrive with Slax, with the fdisk command. Be aware, that Linux cannot be installed on Windows-filesystems like NTFS, FAT32 or FAT16, Linux comes with it's own filesystems, mostly ext3 or ext4.

If you can boot Slax and provide more information about your system, we'll look further in order to find out, which distribution will meet your requirements. If you want to run the machine as a server and have older hardware (I think you're no newbie with computers in general) you may take a look at Slackware.

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Old 01-22-2011, 05:23 PM   #11
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Thumbs up Will check into Slackware

I will post my results from Slackware later. Trying to find a CD to burn it to. I am going to have to format the harddrive with the Slackware Live CD. Its current format is Fat 32. I wasnt sure if that file system was supported by Linux. The RAM might also be a problem. I pulled the cover and checked it is 256mb running at 100mhz. The maximum supported RAM is only 512mb with Windows 32bit XP. I need to investigate the system requiremnts of Ubuntu 10.10 more thoroughly. Is there any other Linux OS similar to Windows like Ubuntu? I can use text based commands but Ive been spoiled by the point and click apps on Windows. I do like the cost difference of the Linux based OS much better and from what Ive learned today it still has excellant support for being open source.
 
Old 01-22-2011, 05:27 PM   #12
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http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...reg_R1002_USEN

I believe these are your spec. If you are running current 128MB of Ram it will take you forever to install. But you need to make sure your bios is set to boot a dvd. Also when you downloaded Ubuntu make sure you burned it as a bootable image not a data cd.

I have a computer with simuliar specs 128mb at 100mhz of ram intel p 3 at 700mhz and it couldn't run ubuntu effectively. If you want ubuntu you need to atleast upgrade your ram to 512. I ran pupply Linux on my p3 computer though and it ran great. How ever I did a centos minimal install and installed some server software with kloxo control panel and well Im just getting by.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...emRequirements
ubuntu requirements

Oh and besure you only run 32bit. You can't run 64bit OS. Your processor don't support it

BUT... IMO the truth is that computer is junk for todays technology. A suggestion. Make it into a storage server or something, maybe even a good router and firewall. If you run a gui with those specs its going to be slow and lousy. How ever command line linux with not to many programs running it will do great. That is why I turned mine into a 1 website server.

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Old 01-22-2011, 05:33 PM   #13
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don't confuse Slax and Slackware, Slax is a live-system, Slackware the distribution it is based on. You cannot install Slax, but you can install Slackware.

There are more lightweight distributions Puppy or Vectorlinux http://vectorlinux.com/

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Old 01-22-2011, 07:36 PM   #14
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Maybe some will suggest a distro that can be used on that pc, like I said I'm just a newbie myself.
 
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mh, almost every recent distribution will run on the machine, the problem is the desktop-environment. KDE or Gnome will not work. Fluxbox, lxde or fvwm2 will probably work. But if the OP wants to use the machine as a server, he will need no gui at all. So I'd recommend a distribution which by default boots to runlevel 3, like Slackware

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