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12-12-2005, 10:27 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Distribution: Fedora Core 4, Knoppix 4
Posts: 14
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Fedora Core 4: unable to boot after install
I just installed FC 4 on an old Dell Dimension 8100 Bios rev A09. After the install process had finished the machine rebooted, but all I get is a blinking underscore cursor.
Background info and any other data that my help troubleshooting.
I FULLY erased the entire disk using DSS DiskWipe which is a 3 pass DoD drive formatter.
I chose the "automatic disk partitioning" option during install and I did not alter the boot loader options.
I used the Fedora Core 4 rescue disk and then entered:
#chroot /mnt/sysimage
#fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda:40.0 GB, 40020774320 bytes
255 heads, 63 nsectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 13 4865 38973690 8e Linux LVM
sh-3.00# rpm -q grub
grub-0.95-13
sh-3.00# pm -q --filesbypkg grub
grub /boot/grub
grub /sbin/grub
grub /sbin/grub-install
grub /sbin/grub-md5-crypt
grub /sbin/grub-terminfo
grub /usr/bin/mbchk
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/AUTHORS
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/COPYING
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/ChangeLog
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/NEWS
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/README
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/TODO
grub /usr/share/doc/grub-0.95/menu.lst
grub /usr/share/grub
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/e2fs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/fat_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/ffs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/iso9660_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/jfs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/minix_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/reiserfs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage1
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/stage2_eltorito
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/ufs2_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/vstafs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/xfs_stage1_5
grub /usr/share/info/grub.info.gz
grub /usr/share/info/multiboot.info.gz
grub /usr/share/man/man1/mbchk.1.gz
grub /usr/share/man/man8/grub-install.8.gz
grub /usr/share/man/man8/grub-md5-crypt.8.gz
grub /usr/share/man/man8/grub-terminfo.8.gz
grub /usr/share/man/man8/grub.8.gz
#grub
grub>root (hd0,0)
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
grub> setup (hd0)
Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no
Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... no
Error 15: File not found
now I am pretty much stupmed
I have read some threads, and it would seem that the problem is the grub.conf file. Sadly enough, I can not find any grub.conf file anywhere.
If anyone has had a similar problem and knows how to fix this, I'd love your input.
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12-12-2005, 10:50 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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grub.conf often appears in /boot/grub as "menu.lst"
BUT--what you describe is not consistent with this file being missing. What does it do before it gets to the blinking cursor?
You may want to consider simply starting over....
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12-12-2005, 10:50 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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grub.conf often appears in /boot/grub as "menu.lst"
BUT--what you describe is not consistent with this file being missing. What does it do before it gets to the blinking cursor?
You may want to consider simply starting over....
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12-12-2005, 11:15 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Distribution: Fedora Core 4, Knoppix 4
Posts: 14
Original Poster
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The dell bios screen lodas and then blinking cursor.
By starting over I assume you mean wipe the disk and reinstall?
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12-13-2005, 09:02 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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Originally Posted by livingdeadraji
The dell bios screen lodas and then blinking cursor.
By starting over I assume you mean wipe the disk and reinstall?
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The clue is the last thing that you see before the blinking cursor---eg something like "grub loading"
To re-install, just boot from your install CD and do a clean install---no need to wipe first.
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12-13-2005, 10:29 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Distribution: Fedora Core 4, Knoppix 4
Posts: 14
Original Poster
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Well the last thing I see is the dell bios loading screen...that's it. No grub loading, nothing, just straight to blinky cursor.
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12-13-2005, 12:02 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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I'm going on hunches here, so don't make major stock trades based on my advice.....
First, verify that you can boot up from a CD or floppy---This establishes the integrity of the hardware, bios, etc.
Assuming all that's working, re-install from the Fedora CD. When prompted, put grub on a floppy--not the HD. Let us know if this works.
(You did not mention dual-boot: If you have Windows on this machine, run the windows installer from CD, select "repair", and when you get to the console, type: "fixmbr". Reboot and verify that you can get to windows.)
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12-13-2005, 11:20 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Distribution: Fedora Core 4, Knoppix 4
Posts: 14
Original Poster
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I can boot from an MS-DOS boot disk and the FC4 Rescue Disk. This works so I reinstalled Fedora Core CD.
I still boot straight to a blinking cursor after the Dell BIOS screen loads.
How do I put grub on a floppy?
I do not have a dual boot, there is only HD and one OS (FC 4).
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12-13-2005, 11:53 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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Hmmmm
the Fedora installer should have given you the option of putting grub on a floppy. What did it tell you about boot loader, grub, etc. during the install?
The symptoms suggest that grub is not installed---but I thought in that case that there would be some kind of error message from the BIOS.
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12-14-2005, 11:54 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Distribution: Fedora Core 4, Knoppix 4
Posts: 14
Original Poster
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OK i ran the Linux Rescue CD
#chroot /mnt/sysimage
#grub-install hd0
so now when I boot I go straight to grub.
when I tried to set the kernel
grub>kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1
as taken from GRUB manual http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/man...#GNU_002fLinux
I get:
Error 15: File not found
What am I doing wrong or to say better now that I am booting into grub how do I get to Fedora Core?
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12-14-2005, 02:21 PM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Annapolis, MD
Distribution: Arch/XFCE
Posts: 17,797
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I'm rapidly getting in over my head here.....
I have tried to read the grub manual, but I am not totally comfortable with it.
Using the rescue CD, can you see the file system for the FC4 installation?
For example, if "grub>kernel /vmlinuz....etc" is supposed to boot your kernel, then you need the exact file name and path.
On my machine it's : "vmlinuz-2.6.9-11.ELsmp", and it is in the /boot directory
Thus (I think!!!) you would need: grub>kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-11.ELsmp.....etc." Obviously, you have to substitute the file name from your machine....
I'm still leaning towards re-install, but we ARE learning some stuff on the trail..... 
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