Fedora core 20 last two kernels don't want to boot.

rhandwor · 08-01-2014, 07:11 AM

I have a gateway 64 bit computer and my last two kernel updates don't want to boot.
I used another hard drive and installed open suse 13.1 and it boots fine.
I reinstalled Fedora core 20 and it booted up fine. I used software install and ran a full update. The only way I can boot is to use linux rescue.
It's never booted without doing this.

smallpond · 08-01-2014, 11:58 AM

What's on the screen when it fails?

rhandwor · 08-01-2014, 01:22 PM

Either the mouse doesn't work or the login screen is dim and It won't accept a click.

Ztcoracat · 08-01-2014, 01:51 PM

Sounds like a possible hardware issue if the mouse isn't being recognized.

Dim screen could be a VGA issue and that is solved by an edit to the bootline. (Or maybe install a graphics driver)
I found that out from reading a Fedora thread a long time ago and remember what one of our Guru's said--

Sorry I don't know how to edit the bootline with a parameter rhandwor; maybe smallpond knows how.

You could always fall back to an older kernel:-

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_parameters

smallpond · 08-01-2014, 03:22 PM

Seems unlikely to be hardware if it runs fine on an older kernel.
Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old for the result of the last two startups of X. Thats what manages your screen and pointing device, so it sounds like its unhappy.

John VV · 08-01-2014, 11:41 PM

"Fedora core 20"
you do know that fedora dropped the "core" in the name back in "fedora core 6" > "fedora 7"
there is no fedora core 20 there is just "Fedora 20"

as to the new kernels

what is your hardware ?
ati or nvidia card
or a built in "chip"

the mouse ?
is it some "odd" Logitech 20+ button thing
or your normal 3 button usb or usb/wireless
or is it a parallel port mouse

rhandwor · 08-02-2014, 05:42 AM

It's a built in chip and a parallel port scroll mouse.

rhandwor · 08-02-2014, 06:05 AM

I couldn't get your commands to work. I tried journalctl and it brought a screen. No AGP bridge found MTRP fixed ranges enabled.
I have another video card and I'm going to try this. I just added a sound card as it would only work 50% of the time.

Ztcoracat · 08-02-2014, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhandwor

It's a built in chip and a parallel port scroll mouse.

Run lspci | grep -i VGA

The character in between lspci and the g in grep is the pipe.

Never mind I see that you said it is built in-

lleb · 08-02-2014, 10:32 AM

yeah this looks an awful lot like a X issue not a kernel issue. are you able to log into the terminal without issues on the latest kernel for F20?

rhandwor · 08-02-2014, 02:52 PM

I installed a new video card I had in the garage. I get a lot better video but it still doesn't start.
It now says bios doesn't leave an aperature please enable enable 10mmv option.
Terminal and everything else seems to work fine.

John VV · 08-02-2014, 03:09 PM

Quote:

I installed a new video card I had in the garage

what manufacture ?
ati or nvidia ?
you need to instal la driver for it
and configure xorg to use that driver

if the card was installed at the time of OS install a opensource driver WOULD have been installed

rhandwor · 08-02-2014, 09:08 PM

It's a CardExpertSg4 GainWard
I got a new hard drive and neither Fedora or Open Suse would find the drive. I plan on returning. I had a new drive same size and Mfg. drive and it loaded. I run out of time and didn't update the software.
I tried to boot my Open Suse drive and it wouldn't boot. I tried to run a rescue disk and it asked for password. I used my SU password and it wouldn't take. I tried no_consul_suspend
I don't think it likes the video card.

rhandwor · 09-13-2014, 10:51 AM

The processor went out then the mother board lost the lan so I scrapped this computer. I installed Fedora 20 on another one and it worked fine for quit a while. The terminal emulator for rox terminal won't close. I changed to another terminal 3 times but it stays and is a real bother. Is they any to delete this terminal emulator.

Ztcoracat · 09-13-2014, 12:42 PM

I've never deleted the terminal; but I'm thinking that if you do, you won't be able to update your distribution:-