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Old 05-04-2005, 09:29 AM   #1
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Fedora 3 Install: RH Linux 3rd party Plugin Questions


Hello,

I'm relatively new to the Linux World and am hoping someone with a bit more time in the environment can help me out.

I installed Fedora 3 on my system. Some of the programs (primarily Multimedia) have been giving me issues. I tried reinstalling from my source and this last weekend I downloaded directly from the Red hat site.

So here's the question:

Following the install both times, when you first set up the system, there is a prompt (actually a GUI screen) that asks you to put in the "Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3rd Party Plug In" disk.

I have as of yet to find out:

1> What this disk is?
2> Can it be affecting my Multimedia applications?
3> Am I crazy as hell for being concerned with it? (I'm developing theories on this question already).

I have asked in a number of use-groups and no one has had an answer.

Finally today I broke down and even called the sales and support with Red Hat. They claim no knowledge of this and have never even heard of it. The closest I come to an answer is that it may have been something from an earlier version of Fedora that wasn't removed from the install process when it was no longer needed.

Any suggestions???
 
Old 05-04-2005, 12:09 PM   #2
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Never heard of it and have no idea what itís related to, so letís round up the ususal suspects.


Did the CD isoís pass the md5sum integrity check?

What type of FC3 installation did you select (e.g., desktop, workstation, everything, etc.)?

What hardware are you using, with special emphasis on any ultramodern or unusual stuff?

During the first round with FC3, did you completely update the system using up2date, yum or apt?


Sometimes it helps to delete the partitions and to do a fresh FC installation, as opposed to reinstalling FC over a broken installation.
 
Old 05-04-2005, 01:01 PM   #3
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The disks being requested are your installation CD's just in case you want to add more software at first boot. As for multimedia Redhat/Fedora is anaemic because it disables most multimeda apps due to licensing issues but they are easy to fix.
 
Old 05-05-2005, 09:09 AM   #4
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WhatsHisName,
>md5sum passed
>complete install
>nothing beyond the ordinary in hardware, and all is (according to RedHat) compatible
>yes I did update using up2date & yum, not apt.
&
>I did all the standard reformatting activities. I'm new to Linux, not compooters...

Redazz:

I didn't really understand your reply. The disk I'm referring to isn't requested till after the load is done and the reboot occurs.

Am I understanding that it wants me to put one of the install disks back in? That doesn't make sense. I didn't think the install disks had 3rd party plugins because of the licensing issues.
 
Old 05-05-2005, 09:32 AM   #5
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You might want to look at plugger. There are a lot of plugins available there, although he's primarily focused on browser plugins.
 
Old 05-05-2005, 10:22 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by etruiii

Redazz:

I didn't really understand your reply. The disk I'm referring to isn't requested till after the load is done and the reboot occurs.

Am I understanding that it wants me to put one of the install disks back in? That doesn't make sense. I didn't think the install disks had 3rd party plugins because of the licensing issues.
Its not asking you do put in the installation disks back in. Its giving you the option of installing extra packages from those cd's if you want, you don't have to do it if you don't.
 
Old 05-05-2005, 10:25 AM   #7
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etruiii: In the 30-40 installations of FC3 that I have personally done on various hardware (I lost count of how many installs that I have done), I have never seen the plugin question you mentioned upon firstboot and still have no idea where it is coming from. It is a question that I might expect when installing RHEL4. It sounds really strange.

But resolving the missing ďpluginsĒ components is easy to do, once you find out which one you need. The Livna repository (http://rpm.livna.org/), which is also available from various fedora mirrors outside of the USA (http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html), contains a lot of the missing licensing-related stuff plus a lot of things that RedHat doesnít seem to want to support on Fedora, such as NTFS support. Remember that RedHat totally controls Fedora content through the Fedora Steering Committee, which is composed exclusively of RedHat employees. Livna is not supported or endorsed by RedHat, as far as I can tell.

Also, if you have not looked at Fedora Extras (http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pu.../linux/extras/), you will find a lot of useful stuff there, too. The good thing about using the trio of Fedora Core, Fedora Extras and Livna is that they are intended to be internally consistent and can be mixed and matched without too much concern about incompatibilities.

Regarding the partition formatting comment, I didnít mean to question your abilities, only to state my belief regarding linux reinstallations. I donít think twice about reinstalling any version of windows over a broken installation, but doing that with broken Fedora installations has blown up in my face so many times, that I avoid it like the plague.
 
Old 05-05-2005, 10:57 AM   #8
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No offense taken over the install suggestions. Even with Windows I firmly believe in doing the clean install. I'm sure it doen's make a lot of difference with 2000 or XP, but I've had issues with every other Windows version at one time or another.

AND

Thanks to all for the plugin options.
The help is greatly appreciated.
 
Old 05-11-2005, 04:02 PM   #9
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OK, Iím an idiot and post #3 (reddazz) is correct. The ďadd packagesĒ screen on firstboot does ask about RHEL extras/plugins.

Although I have seen the screen go by too many times, I apparently never read the RHEL part before yesterday, when I was doing a couple of installs.
 
  


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