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Old 06-21-2013, 09:26 AM   #1
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Fedora 18 freezes, Dell Inspiron N5110


Hello Linux Community

OS: Fedora 18 x86_x64, GNOME-Desktop.
Hardware : Dell Inspiron N5110 with 2 video cards.

after booting Fedora hangs and dose not respond, Fedora freeze's in the login screen, I have to shut it down throw power button.

Since it freezes I am unable to view any system logs, even Ctrl+Alt+F1 or other terminal did not respond.

The last message I saw after the last shutdown was something like watchdog is not responding.

I should mention that I've reinstalled F18 like 10 times up to now and the problem repeats it self after the first restart.

Please help guys.
 
Old 06-21-2013, 03:58 PM   #2
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Did it ever work correctly? Do you mean to say that you installed F18 many times with success?

Can you get and burn a new cd to use as install media or use network install?

Run memtest for a few days?

Run hard drive diags?

Use live cd to access /var

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:35 PM   #3
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Hello sir and thank you for replying

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Did it ever work correctly? Do you mean to say that you installed F18 many times with success?
Yes, F18 always works fine the first time, but after the first restart it fails.

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Can you get and burn a new cd to use as install media or use network install?
I've installed F18 using a bootable usb stick, made by Fedora Live USB Creator 3.11.8.
I can burn F18 cd but I can't see what's the difference.

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Run memtest for a few days?

Run hard drive diags?
I don't have a memory or HD problems, I was running openSUSE for over a year and SUSE was doing great.
I'm also running windows 8 beside and never reported a memory or HD problem .

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Use live cd to access /var
I tried to access F18 and did not freeze this time but X did not start, from a terminal I issued startx and got
PHP Code:
connection to X server lost 
I think it's a configuration issue since I was running Fedora 15, 16, 17 fine, after F18 I got to face this problem, so I have tried Ubuntu and then openSUSE (because I was more experienced with rpm's)

thanx in advance.
 
Old 06-21-2013, 08:13 PM   #4
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"F18 always works fine the first time, but after the first restart it fails." I can only assume you mean you booted to a live cd and installed F18. Then on the first boot from hard drive it fails. Is that correct? Or do you mean you reboot it and then on the second boot from hard drive it then fails?

If you could "see" a problem in hardware and software it would be easier. You may have to diag and test and describe symptoms.

You do realize a working machine last year is not a good example of a current system. Test it!

You boot to a live cd to access the hard drive folder /var.

Get the Fedora 19 while you are at it.
 
Old 06-21-2013, 10:35 PM   #5
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Hello jefro

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"F18 always works fine the first time, but after the first restart it fails." I can only assume you mean you booted to a live cd and installed F18. Then on the first boot from hard drive it fails. Is that correct? Or do you mean you reboot it and then on the second boot from hard drive it then fails?
I've downloaded the DVD install, I mean that when installation is finished, I'm prompted to reboot, after that I got to creating my user, when I'm finished GNOME asks me for login, at that point F18 works great, but if I shut it down the problem appears.

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You do realize a working machine last year is not a good example of a current system. Test it!
OK, I will do that .

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Get the Fedora 19 while you are at it.
It is just 11 days to go , sometimes I just wish they decide to remove that counter and put the link online

thanx jefro
 
Old 06-21-2013, 10:46 PM   #6
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Hello

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You boot to a live cd to access the hard drive folder /var.
Booting once again, F18 did not freeze, but X never started , so I logged as root to a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2) and issued startx, the screen went crazy, as it flashes for a while, the last output was connection to X server lost .
 
Old 06-22-2013, 04:27 AM   #7
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Hi:

DRrevitalize 1.2 is a good application/utility for sectors on your HDD.
I just used it the other day to repair bad sectors on my old laptop.

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ze-Light.shtml

And Memtest is a good tool for finding out if the RAM is bad.
http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm

BTW if the RAM is not seated all the way properly I found out that it can cause the system to hang.

How old is your Dell?

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Old 06-22-2013, 11:09 AM   #8
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Hello Ztcoracat

My Dell is just over one year old, you're assuming a hardware failure but I'm telling you I'm now running Win 8 100% working.

I still remember when fedoraproject.org started the F18 counter, I downloaded F18 the first day it was out.

The problem appeared from the first day F18 was out so one week later I thought I should try openSUSE as it's rpm based and I can get used to it easy, SUSE worked fine until now, but I just hated the zypper package manger and just wanted to get back to yum.

I'm just saying that it could be anything but a hardware problem sir, just take a look at this, yesterday I booted F18, F18 took me to terminal instead of GUI, so I logged as root and ran startx, I got a message telling me : connection to X server lost ?????

So I'm 100% sure that it's a configuration error of some how, anyway I'm downloading the Beta F19, I will give it a try and see what happens.

Thanks Ztcoracat and jefro
 
Old 06-22-2013, 04:37 PM   #9
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You need to consider that we have been down this road more than a few times. When we say you need to start with tests and swapping and such you ought to consider it.

You would be surprised how many computers can run windows and never run linux. I can't say what the issue is right now for you but I suspect hardware. Any part between cd and hard drive is suspect to include video and power supply. Linux doesn't use the same gates and timings and pal's and such as a windows OS does. Unless this dell was sold with some version of linux tested then we can't assume it should work.

Try a live usb.

Test, swap, reseat.

Looking ain't fixin!
 
Old 06-23-2013, 10:46 AM   #10
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Memory test via memtest86+ reported no errors found, and also the HD check.

Anyway, I've downloaded F19 Beta, instead of creating a LiveUSB with Fedora LiveUSB Creator I decided to burn it on a DVD, it's working great.

So I ran the LiveUSB Creator again and created a F18 bootable usb, I tried to verify the written data but F18 installation reported failure to verify the data, it's obviously either the usb flash disk or the LiveUSB utility.

Anyway, if anybody encountered this problem, just try another installation medium.

Thank you both guy, jefro and Ztcoracat.
 
Old 06-23-2013, 08:40 PM   #11
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You are Welcome; J.A.X.
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