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Old 08-04-2009, 11:26 AM   #1
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Fedora 11 hangs on boot up


I have just installed Fedora 11 and have been using it for about a week now. Everything has been working just fine until this morning when I booted up the computer and it hung at the blue screen with the F bubble in the middle. I waited about 10 minutes without any change to the system I held down the power button to power off and tried starting the computer again with the same result. I tried putting the installation CD in and go into rescue mode, but I am unsure where to even start looking for a problem. If I hit escape to bring up the boot loader I see that there are 2 kernel versions on my computer for some reason (I thought I only installed one...)
Fedora (2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i686.PAE)
Fedora (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE)
Choosing either of these still results in a hang at the load screen.

The last major thing I did was to fix the sound on the computer. I dont remeber the command %100 but it was something like

alsasomething init

This got sound going just fine.

I did have a problem shutting down where Mozilla Prism did not fully shut down and I have to force it to exit before shutting down. I have had the computer on since then tho.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
SimGuy
 
Old 08-04-2009, 01:39 PM   #2
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Anyone got a suggestion?
How can I get more information from my computer as to why it may be hanging?

Thanks
 
Old 08-04-2009, 01:59 PM   #3
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Oh one more thing. I saw that when the computer hangs, ther Scroll lock and Caps lock LEDs are blinking which means that there is a kernel panic.

Can this be debugged or am I screwed?
 
Old 08-04-2009, 02:27 PM   #4
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Is this before or after you get to the login screen?

And can you "rescue" the system with the install disc?
 
Old 08-04-2009, 02:38 PM   #5
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those two kernels ( will be 3 after the next update) is normal they are BACKUP .in-case the current one breaks the system . That dose happen every now and then .


you can boot into the old one ( the old working kernel) by hitting any key ( enter or space) during the 3 second countdown at the start . Use the down arrow key to select the older one ( the lower number 29.4-167.)

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the main cause of this , the most common , is there is no new graphic driver for the new kernel .
this can happen if , say , you installed a nvidia driver from the nvidia website and DID NOT use the one fedora built . The same for the ATI 3d card driver. there are also other causes too, we will need some more info .

like your system specks
your 3d card ( if you have one ) or the built in pseudo 3d chip ?

and the error massage in the log
located in /var/log
the end of the " massages " file will be the last error

also look in /var/log "boot.log" for the error.
is it a laptop or desktop ?
 
Old 08-04-2009, 11:55 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by KenjiKinya View Post
Is this before or after you get to the login screen?

And can you "rescue" the system with the install disc?
The system hangs before I can log in. The blue screen with the fedora load bubble in the middle shows up but the system will freeze just as this screen appears.

I can boot up in rescue mode but I have no idea what to do once I get in there.

Quote:
like your system specks
your 3d card ( if you have one ) or the built in pseudo 3d chip ?

and the error massage in the log
located in /var/log
the end of the " massages " file will be the last error

also look in /var/log "boot.log" for the error.
is it a laptop or desktop ?
I'm not sure what a 3d card/chip is. If I do have one how can I find the specs for this?

I looked at the boot.log file and the last line in the file is
Code:
Registering binary handler for Windows applications: ^[[60G[^[[0;32m OK ^[[0;39m^]^M^M
The last line of the messages file was
Code:
ACPI Error (evevent-0304): No Installed handler for fixed event [00000002] [20081204]
Does this have something to do with the newly installed WINE?

Can anyone make more sense of these message for me?

Thanks!
 
Old 08-04-2009, 11:59 PM   #7
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This is a Sony VAIO VGN-FZ240E laptop
 
Old 08-05-2009, 09:42 AM   #8
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Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
 
Old 08-05-2009, 05:34 PM   #9
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Well I was unable to figure out my problem so since I didnt have any important files on my computer I decided to reload Fedora 11 on my computer and start fresh.

Can anyone suggest a reason why this problem came to be so I can avoid having it happen again?

Thanks
 
Old 08-14-2009, 10:38 AM   #10
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I was having a very similar problem, having just upgraded my laptop from Fedora 10 to Fedora 11. Plymouth, the new graphical boot eye candy feature, apparently only worked with a select number of ATI video cards in the version that came with F10, so on my laptop I only got Plymouth's text mode in F10. But in the F11 version of Plymouth, they expanded the video hardware that Plymouth supported, so I suddenly saw the "F bubble" graphic during boot.

Which was cool and all, and I could press an arrow key to see the verbose boot text if I wanted. But the problem is ... if I leave it alone, let it boot normally, staying in graphical mode, when it gets to the end of the boot process it hangs. I can Ctrl+Alt+Delete and it reboots, taking a while, so I suspect that the laptop is actually functioning just fine, but Plymouth won't let go of the screen. On the other hand, if I press an arrow key so as to see all the services starting up, it boots fine.

The solution that works for me is to disable Plymouth's graphical mode. I actually liked Plymouth's text mode from F10 -- the growing blue and white bar at the bottom of the screen is simple and elegant, and I didn't know about Plymouth until I researched this problem; I just thought this was a nice, uncluttered text-mode boot progress indicator. So, once I'd upgraded to F11, run into the boot problem, and learned something about Plymouth, I found out that at least one way to prevent Plymouth from going into graphical mode is to disable the kernel's ability to switch video modes. In /etc/grub.conf, I added a "nomodeset" argument to the kernel. Now I get the basic, simple text-mode bar while booting up, and no hang. I would like to know how to get Plymouth's graphical mode to work without hanging, but this is good for now.

This occurred on a Dell Latitude D620, which uses an Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS type video controller.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 08:08 PM   #11
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huge question

i tried installing the nvidia driver from the website because the one provided by feodra would now allow direct draw or anything i needed, now after i see the color bars move across the screen at reboot, all i see is a black screen, and rarely, a flashing underscore will come up, but typing anything is useless, please help me?
 
Old 09-08-2009, 10:07 PM   #12
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please start a new thread .It sounds like you installed the wrong driver

but without more info i can only use my " crystal ball " -- but it is broken.
 
  


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