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Old 07-13-2009, 01:47 PM   #1
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Exclamation Fedora 11 Driver Installation Help!


High, very new hear and to Linux also, just installed my first linux which is Fedora 11!
-I just needed some help on installing drivers for it (Graphics/Display Driver, Network/Internet Driver...etc
-Anybody know which website to get these from, how to download them, and how to install them correctly.
-Remember since I dont have any network driver on my linux computer, I need to download it through my other computer which has windows and then transport the driver through a USB flash-drive onto the linux computer, any help would be really apprieciated.

-Thank you so much for any help! as you can see my knowledge of linux is 0, I just know how to boot it, and open up the available applications on it.

-If you need any other detials or specs just ask.

Last edited by BumbleBee; 07-13-2009 at 01:48 PM.
 
Old 07-13-2009, 02:22 PM   #2
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I'm not sure but you may can browse around this site and see if you can download and then install drivers.

http://rpmfusion.org/
 
Old 07-13-2009, 02:42 PM   #3
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some info will help

for a 3d card fedora 11 has a built in 2d driver for nvidia and the 3d fglrx ATI driver
and all of the network drivers already built in .

how are you connecting to the net ??
cable ,dsl,adsl,dial-up ??
what is your network card ( who made it )?
is the computer a desktop or laptop?

Also fedora is not the "best" distro for a VERY new Linux person .It is a VERY VERY fast development distro and VERY OFTEN needs fixing .
Fedora is a good choice IF YOU DO WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FIX THINGS .
if you DO like hacking code and a OS then fedora is for you , but updates do and will break things .

you might want to look into Ubuntu as a FIRST time user .
 
Old 07-13-2009, 02:52 PM   #4
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First, I hope you're aware that the Fedora distribution is a "cutting edge" distribution containing lots of "experimental" applications and beta releases. New fedora distributions are released almost every six months, and support for a Fedora release is usually terminated one month after the release two numbers larger is made. (E.g., Support for F9 was terminated a month after F11 was released.)

As to "drivers," generally speaking network, audio and video drivers appropriate for your system are automatically installed when you install a Fedora release. The only exception is for hardware without any open-source driver available, in which case you'll need to find a driver in a repository that makes such drivers available.

We can usually make suggestions, but, first, you need to tell us what hardware, if any, not working on your system.

From your post, I formed an impression that you installed to a desktop box. Such boxen usually have an Ethernet connection port from which you can connect to either your Windows system or directly to the modem used by the Windows system to connect to the Internet. If you connect the Ethernet cable to the modem, Fedora will, usually, automatically connect to your ISP and the Internet. After the connection to the Internet is made, Fedora will search for any updates, and ask you what you want to do about any available updates.

If your "modem" is internal to your Windows system, and you have to connect through it, you'll need to configure the Windows system to bridge your Internet link to the local Ethernet connection. Once you've done that the rest should be almost automatic.

Anyhow, specific details are almost always needed before we can offer much except generalities.
 
Old 07-13-2009, 03:26 PM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
some info will help

for a 3d card fedora 11 has a built in 2d driver for nvidia and the 3d fglrx ATI driver
and all of the network drivers already built in .

how are you connecting to the net ??
cable ,dsl,adsl,dial-up ??
what is your network card ( who made it )?
is the computer a desktop or laptop?

Also fedora is not the "best" distro for a VERY new Linux person .It is a VERY VERY fast development distro and VERY OFTEN needs fixing .
Fedora is a good choice IF YOU DO WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FIX THINGS .
if you DO like hacking code and a OS then fedora is for you , but updates do and will break things .

you might want to look into Ubuntu as a FIRST time user .
NEVERMIND ABOUT THE INTERNET, I GOT IT TO WORK!

-Okay here is the info:
-I am connected through cable but technically a Fiber Optic Channel from Verizon Fios.
-I am not sure who made my network card, I have a laptop, most likley its linksys or cisco made.
-I have a laptop
-I dont know if this really will effect anything becuase it most likley wont, but on my laptop I have split my drive into 2 partitions and have a DUAL BOOT with Windows XP and Linux installed on the different partitions, when my laptop boots up, I choose the operating system that i want to fire-up
-Do you guys seriously suggest getting ubuntu? I heard and read they were extremely similar and was recommended fedeora becuase it usually supports more hardware, therefore I got fedora. since I already have it installed, I might as well continue learning with it and then down the road replace that partition with ubuntu. But if you guys really are able to convince me to switch to Ubuntu and tell me what makes it so much better in my situation then I will consider and will probably change.
 
Old 07-13-2009, 03:30 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PTrenholme View Post
First, I hope you're aware that the Fedora distribution is a "cutting edge" distribution containing lots of "experimental" applications and beta releases. New fedora distributions are released almost every six months, and support for a Fedora release is usually terminated one month after the release two numbers larger is made. (E.g., Support for F9 was terminated a month after F11 was released.)

As to "drivers," generally speaking network, audio and video drivers appropriate for your system are automatically installed when you install a Fedora release. The only exception is for hardware without any open-source driver available, in which case you'll need to find a driver in a repository that makes such drivers available.

We can usually make suggestions, but, first, you need to tell us what hardware, if any, not working on your system.

From your post, I formed an impression that you installed to a desktop box. Such boxen usually have an Ethernet connection port from which you can connect to either your Windows system or directly to the modem used by the Windows system to connect to the Internet. If you connect the Ethernet cable to the modem, Fedora will, usually, automatically connect to your ISP and the Internet. After the connection to the Internet is made, Fedora will search for any updates, and ask you what you want to do about any available updates.

If your "modem" is internal to your Windows system, and you have to connect through it, you'll need to configure the Windows system to bridge your Internet link to the local Ethernet connection. Once you've done that the rest should be almost automatic.

Anyhow, specific details are almost always needed before we can offer much except generalities.
-Well I think I wrote everything needed in the above post but if not please mention it, and I here the specs of my computer (by the way all the hardware works fine)
-Operating System
-Dual Booted
-Windows XP
-Linux Fedora 11
-Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz
-RAM: 768MB, but might get 1 GIG
-HARD DRIVE: 60GB 5400rpm drive
-anything missing? oh and its a laptop
 
Old 07-13-2009, 06:22 PM   #7
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You say that you've got the Internet to work. Was that the wireless connection of the cable? (Since you've got a laptop, I presume you meant "I got the WiFi connection to work," but - as you may have noticed from my last post - when I need to make assumption from your vague and imprecise statements I can be wrong.

Please, try to take the time to clearly state what you're trying to accomplish.

You started by asking about "drivers," but never mentioned what drivers you needed. Now you say that all your hardware is working properly. Does that mean that you've found all the drivers you needed, or that the hardware is working, but not with Fedora? If some hardware is not working with Fedora, and you suspect that you need a driver for it, telling us that the "hardware is working" is not very helpful since I, for one, would assume you meant that all your problems were solved.

Here's my suggestion for an improved specification:
Quote:
Well I think I wrote everything needed in the above post but if not please mention it, and I here the specs of my computer (by the way all the hardware works fine)
- Laptop: Manufacturer ? Model ?
- Display: Size? Video chip-set?
- BIOS: Supplier? Updated?

-Operating System
-Dual Booted
-Windows XP Professional? Service Pack? (Not that we'd be much interested in this.)
-Linux Fedora 11 Kernel version? Display manager? Desktop system? (Default is 2.6.29, GDM, GNOME)
-Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Hyperthreaded? FSB speed? Cache Size?, Model number?
-RAM: 768MB, but might get 1 GIG
-HARD DRIVE: 60GB 5400rpm drive SATA? ISA? Buffer size
Note that Fedora 11 is compiled with the assumption that your processor will, at a minimum, comply with the Intel 586 specifications. IIRC, the Pentium 4 series generally did that, but without knowing your precise processor specifications, we can't be sure about it.

Last edited by PTrenholme; 07-13-2009 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Forgot BIOS
 
Old 07-13-2009, 08:35 PM   #8
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in fedora 11 there is a EXPERIMENTAL 3d nvidia driver .some laptops have built in chipsets ( not FULL 3d cards) . They can be
1)intel
---- most are supported by default , but some can be a problem
2) ATI
--- fedora has a already installed fglrx ( free & open) driver , it works on most ati chips but not all
--- ATI 's Catalyst™ driver ( SUCKS for the current linux kernel , or two) and is BROKEN

you might want to read the guilds over at fedoraforum
"Guides & Solutions (Not for Questions) "
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=12
ati "Howto for fglrx (Ati driver) and Compiz-fusion "
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=155503
nvidia "F11 Howto for the rpmfusion nvidia drivers "
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=204752
intel( older chips)
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=207320

-----------------------
as to fedora or ubuntu ??? that is up to you

fedora dose very often need fixing .
An example ---
When i installed fedora 11 ( using fedora since 4 ) i had no sound -- none at all--
theree was a bug in the fedora audio i was able to get sound in videos on Mplayer and VLC but NO SYSTEM or GAME sounds !
after i uninstalled pulse audio and reinstalled alsa ( the old sound system) a bug fix was released so i reinstalled pulse audio . Know i have sound BUT and there is always a BUT the updates broke python ( well python works but some things that use it do not .The python know installed is WAY to new for "pysol solitaire " to work and too new for some of "blender" and "GDAL " ( I NEED GDAL )

so if you DO want to learn how to fix things like that then use fedora

99.9% of the time fedora works well enough to get things done but not all of the time.
 
Old 07-14-2009, 11:56 AM   #9
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-Reply to [PTrenholme]
-When I say I got my internet to work, I meant hard-wired.
-When I said my hardware works, I meant to say that the actual hardware isn't broken, I still might need drivers for it and stuff, I just meant to say that the hardware itself isn't broken becuase I thought at first thats what you asked.
-here are more detailed specs of my laptop:
-Type-Laptop
-Manufacture-HP
-Model-HP Pavillion ZV5000
-Display-LCD Monitor
-Chipset-Radeon Mobilty 9000 IGP
-Display Size-15inches with 1280x800 resolution with a 16:10 or 8:5 ratio
-Bios-I need to ask somebody i know about that one
Operating Systems: (DUAL BOOT)
-Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 3
-Linux Fedora 11 i386
-I think its Gnome (telling me what to do to check specifically might help)
-Processor-Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Hyperthreaded (I dont know its cache,FSB,and Model number, its a 4 year old laptop, there is no specs about it on the internet or on the computer itself)
-RAM: 768MB, might get 1 GIG
-HARD DRIVE: 60GB, (It is most likley a 5400rpm but there is a chance it might be 4200rpm, but dought that matters) IDE DRIVE! (I dont know buffer size, its old and there are no specs that specific on it)(What is ISA?)

-Maybe there is software you know that will tell me the exact specs of my processor?





-REPLY TO [John VV]
-Well here is the problem, when I go to System==>Preferences==>Display
-It just gives me two resolutions, 1024x768 and 800x600 which are tiny resolutions and they suck, I need my monitors native resolution which is 1280x800!
-I went to a link where there were 2 drivers that were for linux (rpm files), I downloaded the first and installed it and it did not work, it installed and ATI-Control center which is what I need to set-everything up I am sure and
it isn't working, when I open it says the following: Error Could not launch 'ATI Control' Failed to execute child process "fireglcontrolpanel" (No such file or directory)
-Now I dont know how to uninstall this, I cant install and try the other driver until this one is uninstalled becuase it says there is conflict!!!!! Plz tell me how to uninstall this one or fix it since apparently isn't working!

Here is a link to where I chose the criteria to find my driver
<http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx>
-I chose Linux x86====>Integrated/Motherboard====>Radeon 9000IGP
-Once you are at that link just chose those three criteria I mentioned and you will go to this page through it:
<http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/linux-radeon-prer200.aspx>

-The first driver wasn't able to install cause it was some other file, however the 2 drivers below are rpm files! I need to either fix the first one I installed becuase it wont let the ATI control thing work or tell me how to uninstall it
so I can try the other driver below it! And if these drivers are wrong tell me what I need to download (which driver or software) so I can use my native screen resolution of 1280x800.
-Somebody else said I could use yum, I know what yum is so if you want me to install something through that just tell me, and another person said I could use the Add/Remove Software thing, there are thousands of stuff there!

-ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

-THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

-Bumblebee
 
Old 07-14-2009, 03:14 PM   #10
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for a ati chipset YOU DO need to do steps 1 through 6
and rebuild the intred ( step 3 and 4 ) and edit grub.conf ( step 5)

step 1
update

step 2
is installing the software repo and use "yum " to install the driver ( do not just download the rpm and double click on it ) but type in to the terminal-- or copy/paste -
Code:
yum  install kmod-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx xorg-x11-drv-fglrx-libs.i386
step 3
Backup,Backup,Backup,Backup

step 4
run the code
Code:
mkinitrd -v /boot/initrd-`uname -r`.img  `uname -r`
to rebuild the file

--- as to the screen res-----
you will need the driver installed adn working first
then edit the config file " xorg.conf "
located in /etc/X11 and add the higher screen res.

Fedora is a nice OS but my warnings are so you go in with your eyes WIDE OPEN . With fedora you will be doing a bunch of things from the terminal and typing a bit . Also editing config files ( by hand) .

there is a STEEP learning curve and it will take some time to get used to how things are done ( they are NOT done the Microsoft way )

Last edited by John VV; 07-14-2009 at 03:29 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2009, 04:28 PM   #11
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OK, now I'm confused. John VV has suggested a lot of steps for you to follow, but most of those steps are, as far as I can recall, unneeded. (For example, I have no idea why he'd suggest a need to rebuild the Initial RAM disk image [mkinitrd] since the RAM disk is only used to load the actual system, and has no effect on anything after the "real" system is booted.)

If you've installed something from a RPM file, you can uninstall it by using the command rpm -e <full_name_of_rpm_file>, where the full name is the path to the RPM file, something like ~/Download/fglrx....rpm.

Then I'd suggest you install the yumex command which is a nice GUI shell for the YUM command with a yum install yumex. After that, pick yumex from the "System" menu item and, after it starts, click on the "All" radio button, enter "radeon" in the "Search" box, and see what's available (or installed).

Since the FOSS Radeon drivers are in the standard Xorg files, you won't see much. Which should tell you that, unless your card is too old to be supported by the FOSS drivers, you shouldn't have needed to do anything to get your system working.

My wife's system contains a really old ATI card, and, when I installed Fedora 11 on it, it started with no problem. (1440x800 resolution). I'm going to post this and log in to her system so I can post a copy of her /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. From your description of your display problem it sounds like you're using the VESA device driver instead of the Radeon one . . .

<edit>
O.K., here's what her xorg.conf file looks like:
Code:
$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# Xorg configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Default Layout"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
# keyboard added by rhpxl
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "kbd"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard0"
        Driver      "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Videocard0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
                Modes    "1440x900" "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
                Modes    "1440x900" "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection
And here's a list of the "radeon" files on her system:
Code:
$ locate radeon
/lib/modules/2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon
/lib/modules/2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon
/lib/modules/2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/radeon/radeon.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.29.5-191.fc11.i586/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko
/usr/include/drm/radeon_bo.h
/usr/include/drm/radeon_bo_gem.h
/usr/include/drm/radeon_cs.h
/usr/include/drm/radeon_cs_gem.h
/usr/include/drm/radeon_drm.h
/usr/include/drm/radeon_track.h
/usr/include/linux/radeonfb.h
/usr/lib/libdrm_radeon.so
/usr/lib/libdrm_radeon.so.1
/usr/lib/libdrm_radeon.so.1.0.0
/usr/lib/directfb-1.2-0/gfxdrivers/libdirectfb_radeon.so
/usr/lib/dri/radeon_dri.so
/usr/lib/pkgconfig/libdrm_radeon.pc
/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.26/vidix/radeon_vid.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
/usr/sbin/radeontool
/usr/share/doc/radeontool-1.5
/usr/share/doc/radeontool-1.5/CHANGES
/usr/share/hwdata/videoaliases/radeon.xinf
/usr/share/man/man4/radeon.4.gz
You should find something similar on your system.

A nice program for examining you hardware is the lshw command. Try a yum install lshw.
</edit>

Last edited by PTrenholme; 07-14-2009 at 04:44 PM.
 
Old 07-14-2009, 05:29 PM   #12
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I just looked at the HP site, and the "drivers' page for the DV5000 suggest that your wireless card uses either an Atheros or Broadcom chipset. Both of those chipsets are supported by the Fedora 11 you installed, but the Broadcom one requires that you extract some propitiatory microcode from an XP (or other) driver before it will work.

To see which was detected, run this command: dmesg | egrep -i '(atheros|broadcom)'. On my HP DV9700, I see this:
Code:
$ dmesg | egrep -i '(atheros|broadcom)'
ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2425 chip found (MAC: 0xe2, PHY: 0x70)
but I suspect that you'll find you have a Broadcom chipset, and need to run the b43-fwcutter program to extract the microcode. (See man b43-fwcutter for instructions, or search in the LQ forums for "fwcutter"
 
Old 07-14-2009, 07:40 PM   #13
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-thank you for your the programs and commands help, I will install that program to scan your hardware to find your specs and will try everything suggested, but tomorrow my dad will take the laptop to work and let one of his colleagues who is a senior professional Unix and Linux engineer to take a look and get the basics (drivers (if any more are needed),updates,and most basic fundamental components into it) and then I will start exploring it and utilizing it for real useful purposes. I will post back when everything is done and working

-Bumblebee
 
Old 07-16-2009, 12:09 AM   #14
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Okay so finally I got my video driver installed and I could use my full resolution. Now comes another part, installing my wireless network driver, however this time I am lock n loaded on specs, since I have dual boot, I booted into winxp and good a little freeware app that gives you practically or should I say literally every spec there is to know about your computer. The program itself is is called "SystemSpec", it doesn't require install, just a stand alone executable file.
-Anyway Here are (DETAILED SPECS)
-I need help just installing wireless driver and thats pretty much it for drivers for now
-Operating Systems
-OS#1:Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
-OS#2:Linux Fedora Core 11 i386
-Memory:::735MB
-CPU:::Intel(R)Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00Ghz
-Sound Card:::SoundMAX Digital Audio
-Display/Video/Graphic Adapter:::ATI Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP | NetMeeting drive | RDPDD Chained DD
-Screen Resolution:::1280x800-32bit 16:10 or 8:5 ratio
-NETWORK ADAPTER:::::Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC-Packet Scheduler Miniport
-Motherboard:::Hewlett-Packard 089C
-Bios Info:::AT/AT compatible | 04/06/05 | PTLTD - 6040000
-Hard Drive:::-60GB 4200rpm or a 5400rpm (doesn't specify), Linux says its SATA, although I am not sure, it might be IDE, Two partitions, the 1st partition with winxp installed is around 35gb and the 2nd partition with linux is 25gb (not completley exact, but I am guessing you dont really need info to the byte-size levels)
-Manufacture::: HP
-Model:::HP Pavillion ZV5000 (PF119UA#ABA)
|||\\\-CPU INFO:::///|||
=Hyperthreading
=Model ID: Family 15 Model 2 Steppping 9
=Code Name: Northwood
=Serial Number 0000-0002-007b-7040-0000-0000
=processor ID BFEBFBFF00000F29
=current voltage 22
=socket designation jp8

-Thats its, I gave everything that could possibly have been important, these specs were run when was in windows, same stuff goes for linux i guess, i just need linux-optimized drivers for everything. A good website to get this would be helpful, maybe a link, and also, I have not learned about to import keys yet, i find it difficult for some reason, so if possible if its a repitable website I would like to skip the whole keys part and get the installation of the RPM!

-Oh oops, I dont think I gave info on my wireless card, I haven't even gotten the wireless driver for winxp yet becuase i just installed xp when i was installing linux tomorrow I will get the driver and post the Wi-fi card's specs so we can get a driver for the card except in linux now.

-Bumblebee

Last edited by BumbleBee; 07-16-2009 at 12:17 AM.
 
Old 07-16-2009, 12:00 PM   #15
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Okay so I already posted all the other specs in the above posts, here is my wireless card:::
Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN-Packet scheduler miniport
-Thats what I need my linux driver for! (wireless)
 
  


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