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SoutheastSam 11-26-2008 09:10 PM

Fedora 10 Live CD Problem on HP Pavilion dv6815nr
 
I'm pretty new to Linux and I was just now trying to get Fedora Core 10 to boot from a live CD and also from a live USB but it freezes at a point stating something about plymouthd failing. Any help is appreciated.

eggixyz 11-26-2008 10:18 PM

Hey there,

This may or may not help, since the liveCD/USB may not offer you alternate boot options, but there's a bug out there for plymouth - if you can, hit any key when the grub screen comes up and choose any boot option but the first one (that's almost always the default boot image)

If you don't have any other boot options, check out this link for known-good versions and you can download and burn new CD's/USB's that won't give you that error.

best wishes and Happy Thanksgiving :)

, Mike

http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/fe.../msg61039.html

SqdnGuns 11-26-2008 10:23 PM

Hasn't that been a known bug since early October and it's still in the release?

SoutheastSam 11-26-2008 10:36 PM

I guess the problem isn't in the booting. I only get 4 boot options: Boot, Scan and Boot, Memory Test, and something else (I forget right now...). The problem really occurs during the startup. I choose not to do interactive startup and everything works fine until it gets to "Starting cups: [OK]" then it stops. If I press Ctrl+Alt+Del it shuts everything down and restarts. If I press Alt+F4 I go to a command line (?). It displays:

Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)
Kernel 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.x86_64 on an x86_64 (tty4)
localhost login:

and when I type "liveuser" it gives me:

[liveuser@localhost ~]$

I'm still really confused and the link didn't help me too much. Got anymore?

eggixyz 11-26-2008 11:04 PM

Hey There,

When you stop after CUPS starts okay, and get to the command line, check in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d (there are other, more user-friendly ways to do this, but I like to see what I'm seeing ;) and possibly /etc/rc5.d and look for that CUPS init script. It should be something like

S99cups

S for start
99 a number - don't know what it is for CUPS off hand, these are just used to control the order of startup script execution
cups (might not be the name of the script.

Find that and then look at the next script in the output of ls -l in the pertinent directory. Try running that and see if it runs okay, then the next one, and so on. Once you've figured out which startup script (They should mostly be symlinks back to /etc/init.d is giving you the problem, you can comment it (just use vi) and try booting up again. Then you can use the GUI and remove that program from the startup the "normal" way :)

Best wishes,

Mike

SoutheastSam 11-26-2008 11:41 PM

Okay, I got to the /etc/rc2.d, etc., etc. directories to check out what things are starting up after cups and they are:

/etc/rc2.d has s99anacron
and
/etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d have s99livesys-late starting after it.

You mention using the GUI to remove them the "normal" way, but I have no GUI. :(
How can I remove them through the command line (my online choice for input)?

SoutheastSam 11-26-2008 11:42 PM

Or do you mean pressing Tab at the boot menu for boot options?

eggixyz 11-26-2008 11:53 PM

Yo,

Two ways come to mind. I usually just use vi and put pound signs in front of every line, but that's just reckless ;)

Try chkconfig, it should be in /usr/sbin, probably.

If you do

chkconfig --level 012345 anacron off

that would "cleanly" remove all the links to the init script in /etc/init.d for anacron. Since the name of the script is usually the same as the name of the service you can just do that and probably get it right (you'll get an error and not cause any damage if you name a service that doesn't exist. If you want to double check, just do:

chkconfig --list

and grep that output for your service, or just find it in all the output. If you run chkconfig with --list and specify the service, it will print out all the run levels and whether the service is set to on or off at each one.

I'm not going to bed anytime soon, so write back if you still have issues.

Take it easy :)

, Mike

eggixyz 11-26-2008 11:55 PM

Sorry,

I think tab at boot will only let you do stuff like "rescue" or interactive startup. When I wrote of options, i was thinking of the grub screen that says it's going to boot whatever kernel in so many seconds. If you don't have that, it may just be disabled (or they're still using lilo for a boot loader).

Either way, you're on your way to being set :)

, Mike

SoutheastSam 11-27-2008 12:35 AM

Okay, once again I was stopped during "non-interactive" startup. These past few times for either:

plymouthd: ply-event-loop.c: 526: ply-event-loop-run-exit-closures: Assertation 'closure -> handler != ((void *)0)' failed.

or it hangs when trying to starting networking interfaces such as eth0 or wlan0.

As for
Quote:

Originally Posted by eggixyz (Post 3356294)
Sorry,

I think tab at boot will only let you do stuff like "rescue" or interactive startup. When I wrote of options, i was thinking of the grub screen that says it's going to boot whatever kernel in so many seconds. If you don't have that, it may just be disabled (or they're still using lilo for a boot loader).

Either way, you're on your way to being set :)

, Mike

I don't even have the thing where it says booting whatever kernel in X seconds. This is from a live usb made from liveusb-creator-2.7
(if that helps). As far as I can assume with my little knowledge of Linux, could it just be a problem with the live cd iso?

SoutheastSam 11-27-2008 12:44 AM

I'm about to try make a live usb thing from another usb drive because I was just reading on the web site that a lot of people were having trouble with Kingston usb drives and liveusb which I happened to be using. Be right back. Rebooting is tiring. :/

eggixyz 11-27-2008 12:52 AM

:) That's probably a good idea. When all the stuff that makes sense doesn't work, it's usually something goofy like a bad image or release...

I hope you get it all set up. Let me know :)

, Mike

jiobo 11-27-2008 01:51 AM

I installed FC10 from the DVD and so far no problems.

eggixyz 11-27-2008 03:47 AM

Awesome :)


, Mike

SoutheastSam 11-27-2008 10:22 AM

No luck last night. Sorry to leave you hanging I went to bed around 2 AM CST. If I didn't already mention, some other hangup points were at the networking interfaces and this:

ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready.

I have feeling it's a bad live cd image. The internet at my house is slow so I didn't have a chance to DL the DVD image like usual. I'll try to DL that once I get back to school on Sat. or Sun. and I'll let you know.

Thanks for all the help last night and this morning. Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Sam


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