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Old 12-06-2011, 07:19 PM   #1
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FC14 to FC16 disaster


I think it might be my NVIDIA card and stuff, but going through pre-upgrade and installing fc16 has been a disaster. I can't even start the machine! Perhaps something about runlevel? Kernel-3 doesn't do the old fashioned runlevel thing?



Any thoughts?
 
Old 12-06-2011, 07:44 PM   #2
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Welcome to the (ever expanding) club.
I gave up after a F15-F16 pre-upgrade fiasco, and went back to a full re-install.

I'd forgotten about nvidia - it's now using nouveau at native resolution. Good enough for me, so I'll leave it.
 
Old 12-06-2011, 07:53 PM   #3
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I backed up all but a day or two's data. But nonetheless that's a week's work to just get back to fc14! What the &^%* are they doing!


And another two weeks to re-install my specialist software!

What kind of reputation are fedora trying to build??????????????
 
Old 12-06-2011, 08:17 PM   #4
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Well, in fairness Fedora is a (close to) "bleeding edge" distro. These sort of things are gunna happen.
You have to be prepared to work around them.

My system was pretty specific, so package re-installs isn't that big an issue for me. When I stumble over something I've forgotten, I go get it. Or remain in sublime ignorance, as in the nvidia case ...
 
Old 12-06-2011, 08:26 PM   #5
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So package re-installs isn't that big an issue for me.


I have NO SYSTEM AT ALL


NO BIG ISSUE?

I am writing from an ancient Windows Vista Beast. Can anyone tell me about this change from runlevels from linuc-kernels-2 to 3?
 
Old 12-06-2011, 08:38 PM   #6
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well it is very well known that skipping a version in fedora will NOT work well.
skipping 15 and going to 16 is not supported

this has NEVER been supported

fedora is basically a "testing" OS
so one MUST take the needed PRECAUTIONS

With fedora a new version is often A VERY NEW AND VERY DIFFERENT OS
things DO change greatly in a new version

like nouveau and using nouveau FOR THE bootloader graphics
building nouveau into the install bootimage
having to rebuild that bootimage if you install the nvidia driver

However the nouveau issue is NOT restricted to fedora
( every one else also has it )

Before ANYONE upgrades one NEEDS to READ the release notes
( fedora 101 )
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/...tes/index.html

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html

Last edited by John VV; 12-06-2011 at 08:40 PM.
 
Old 12-06-2011, 09:14 PM   #7
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Perhaps something about runlevel? Kernel-3 doesn't do the old fashioned runlevel thing?
I'm not really sure what you're asking, but if you want to amend the grub kernel line to boot to runlevel 3, simply add the digit "3" to the end of the line (after a space char). This works in both F15 and F16. I always remove the "quiet" and "rhbg" as well so I can see what the hell is happening.

Of course, the boot-loader changes in F16 - to grub2. You may be using either depending on where you failed. For grub, use "b" (no quotes) to boot after you've finished editting - for grub2, use "<Ctrl>-x" instead.
 
Old 12-07-2011, 05:38 AM   #8
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It's like Russian roulette, upgrading from release to release in any distro.
 
Old 12-07-2011, 08:01 AM   #9
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It seems as though there is a new thing in the version 3 kernel: there is systenctl



systemctl isolate runlevel3.target
 
Old 12-07-2011, 08:03 AM   #10
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well it is very well known that skipping a version in fedora will NOT work well.
skipping 15 and going to 16 is not supported


Then why does Fedora invite me to do it!
 
Old 12-07-2011, 08:44 AM   #11
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Panic over! SOLVED (for me anyhow)

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showth...08#post1536908

It was a runlevel thing and an NVIDIA thing and the new systemd thing.....

Last edited by tethysgods; 12-07-2011 at 08:47 AM. Reason: wrong link!
 
Old 12-07-2011, 02:50 PM   #12
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OK, I thank everyone who gave advice, and I was panicking, so sorry for my tone: nonetheless some of the advice was pure garbage --but well meant. To anyone else who has a similar problem - go to rescue mode - then systemctl as in the previous posts, and then sort out NVIDIA. (If you haven't installed a graphics card --- (essential to me) --- there is no problem with fc14 to fc16.


The fedora core people did good!


I didn't know there was a --update option for re-installing NVIDIA, let alone that would sort out the update to the Linux 3 Kernel.


I hope this thread proves useful!
 
  


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