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Old 01-07-2010, 05:19 AM   #1
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"Fastest" out-of-the-box KDE distribution?


Hey all. Here as I sit, happily with my Ubuntu and GNOME. I really like the GNOME in many ways. Alas, I admit that the desktop UI initializes in a meager .5 second really gets me. So why am I looking at KDE if I'm happy with this GNOME? Read on...

Cause I'm not. I confess the GNOME isn't as pretty as KDE. Then I read a Slackware users' love of KDE (looking at you, ~sHyLoCk~), then I go on and read Linuz Torvalds criticism of GNOME. I see KDEs apps constantly being referred to as elite. And eyecandy? Well, GNOME has zip (not .zip ).

Then I want to change something somewhere in the UI in gnome and I have to open a dreaded Registry Editor. I have had enough torture with that, with you-know-who, Mr. Gates! (Ok, ok, its Gconf. Whatever. Still has hives and strange string data, hiding away things...making things harder and more complicated).

So now I'm all for KDE right? Maybe. Every distro I have tried with KDE, Slackware (God of the Linux), Gentoo (Sabayon) [supposedly optimized for hardware for speed....hrmph...), Kubuntu (1:27 sec boot time), Fedora with KDE (Pathetic), BackTrack 4 (System_not_responsive) and a few others I probably have forgotten. Guess what? Slower than molasses in January. Boot times 1 minute +... 10 seconds plus for an app to load up...Even the mouse gets choppy. GNOME distros? Fast. (well, a few of them are, anyway...)

I've read distrowatch like an Almanac, scoured polishlinux.org...Haven't seen nothing.

So I guess I'm going to ask you KDE fans, is there some obscure optimization thats needed?

Really, whats a fast KDE distro? How do you make KDE fast without taking away all of its positives?

There MUST be some good answer to this, all Linux "Gurus" use KDE. Well, why?
 
Old 01-07-2010, 06:00 AM   #2
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tl;dr

openSUSE->KDE->best.

EDIT: I had to read since my name was mentioned. Anyway, Fastest Linux distro out there is Arch. Now if you are talking about boot speed, I'd say Arch and then Sidux. Sidux is pretty cool. KDE is KDE. It is same everywhere. However Arch is very fast, light and pretty customizable.

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Old 01-07-2010, 06:46 AM   #3
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Arch or sidux, would be your best bets. sidux can be installed in around 5 minutes on most systems.sidux has a nice manual, forum, wiki, and an irc channel. Arch has a very detailed wiki, forum, and helpful people in the irc channel. If you use the Chakra installer for Arch the install is pretty simple as well. http://chakra-project.org/

Heck just pick one, even kubuntu can be tweaked to run fast, the problem is all the services it starts by default. But why bother when Arch/chakra or sidux are blazing fast.
 
Old 01-07-2010, 08:21 AM   #4
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Thanks for being nice!

I might delve into Arch, however the pure CLI administration is a bit scary.

I have never heard of Sidux before, so I will have to go on over to distrowatch and check it out.
 
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Sidux is very fast
probably fastest with any wm
 
Old 01-07-2010, 08:40 AM   #6
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There MUST be some good answer to this, all Linux "Gurus" use KDE.
I very much doubt that....

With Arch, I used to use KDEmod, but in my current setups, there were some issues---especially with the 64-bit KDEmod. I now use the regular KDE 4.x.x from Arch repos. Someone also mentioned Chakra (fixed)---this is Arch + KDEmod, but, last I checked, is not ready for prime time.

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I might delve into Arch, however the pure CLI administration is a bit scary.
I've never found Arch to be "scary" to set up. Tedious---yes. A lot of the adminstration is GUI: KDE system settings, CUPS via the web interface, WICD for the network, NVidia setup, etc.

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Old 01-07-2010, 08:44 AM   #7
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I very much doubt that....

With Arch, I used to use KDEmod, but in my current setups, there were some issues---especially with the 64-bit KDEmod. I now use the regular KDE 4.x.x from Arch repos. Someone also mentioned Chandra---this is Arch + KDEmod, but, last I checked, is not ready for prime time.

I've never found Arch to be "scary" to set up. Tedious---yes. A lot of the adminstration is GUI: KDE system settings, CUPS via the web interface, WICD for the network, NVidia setup, etc.
Yes, but from what I've read, when Arch boots up, it has no GUI. The install, package-management, and the retrieval of the KDE packages is by going online and getting them.

Now this only from what I've read...perhaps Arch has some GUI installer?
 
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You are correct. When you first install Arch, there is nothing. You have to manually install X and the WM or DM of your choice. It really is not that hard and the Arch documentation is among the best.

The only way to know for sure is to try it........
 
Old 01-07-2010, 09:24 AM   #9
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First off, I would like to thank you all for being so quick and nice on your posts. I figured my post would have gotten flamed to some degree. Thanks again for being considerate of my post.

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tl;dr

openSUSE->KDE->best.

EDIT: I had to read since my name was mentioned. Anyway, Fastest Linux distro out there is Arch. Now if you are talking about boot speed, I'd say Arch and then Sidux. Sidux is pretty cool. KDE is KDE. It is same everywhere. However Arch is very fast, light and pretty customizable.
openSUSE? Where did that come form?

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Sidux is very fast
probably fastest with any wm
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Originally Posted by craigevil
Arch or sidux, would be your best bets. sidux can be installed in around 5 minutes on most systems.sidux has a nice manual, forum, wiki, and an irc channel. Arch has a very detailed wiki, forum, and helpful people in the irc channel. If you use the Chakra installer for Arch the install is pretty simple as well. http://chakra-project.org/

Heck just pick one, even kubuntu can be tweaked to run fast, the problem is all the services it starts by default. But why bother when Arch/chakra or sidux are blazing fast.

According to distrowatch, Sidux includes a graphical installer, a .deb package-manager, and is Debian based. That is good news for someone who has used Ubuntu as my primary distribution for quite a while.

Is Sidux, out-of-the-box, default install, faster and/or more responsive, than the default installs of Slackware, Sabayon, Fedora, or Kubuntu? (No services edited, no modifications done)

I apologize as the above would indicate it does, but I'm a bit shocked because it seems to be a rather good fit. Any elaborations guys?
 
Old 01-07-2010, 09:30 AM   #10
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Someone also mentioned Chandra---this is Arch + KDEmod
You mean Chakra.
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openSUSE? Where did that come form?
At first I saw your topic and replied quick [tl;dr], openSUSE has the best KDE implementation of any distros and hence I recommended that but it's certainly not the fastest!
 
Old 01-07-2010, 09:31 AM   #11
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openSUSE? Where did that come form?
Would you believe from the Novell/SUSE team?? http://www.opensuse.org/en/
 
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Arrrgh---yes Chakra Chandra is a NASA X-Ray astronomy mission. My brain is cross-wired....
 
Old 01-07-2010, 09:34 AM   #13
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Would you believe from the Novell/SUSE team?? http://www.opensuse.org/en/
Everyone had said either Arch or Sidux, so that was a bit out of the blue. I liked the light-hearted sarcasm though
 
  


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