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Old 04-21-2004, 08:39 PM   #1
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extreme noob question


Hi guys, I don't know that much about opensource OS, as you will figure from the question below.

Are there any ways to get a Unix or Linux prompt for windows?
I mean if I wanted to try and teach myself coding, could I simulate a shell in windows? I remember taking an intro to Unix course a while ago, but I can't remember the name of what it was we used. It was X- somthing... It allowed us to use the prompt and pine and pico, and all that good stuff.

TIA.
 
Old 04-21-2004, 08:49 PM   #2
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Search the web for Cygwin.

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Old 04-21-2004, 09:00 PM   #3
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VMware

You can check out VMware as well...

Cheers, Zegos
 
Old 04-21-2004, 09:08 PM   #4
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The consept of 'Linux prompt' is somewhat ambuguous, but if you want to have your hands on to the shell and tools most linux users are using, you can set those up.
See the cygwin system for how to do it.


Note: Windows is the worst and most unmaintainable unix distribution I have seen.
It has unstable kernel, unsophisticated job control, bad integration with the tools, basic installation leaves the system in degraded mode, even the shell and X server have to be installed separatedly(eg. from cygwin). Thus, it has quite good hardware support -- but only for x86 platform -- and it has integrated wine that is working quite well.
 
Old 04-21-2004, 09:48 PM   #5
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okay, cool thanks alot everyone. I downloaded Cygwin, and when I run the program a little window that looks like the DOS prompt pops up for like half a second then dissappears. I think It is displaying an error, but I can't be sure.
any ideas?
 
Old 04-22-2004, 02:24 AM   #6
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To see the error messages, try running Cygwin from the DOS prompt. cd to the directory where you installed cygwin and run cygwin.bat.

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Old 04-22-2004, 02:49 AM   #7
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If you want to teach yourself how to code, why not just set up your PC as a dual boot machine? Personally I'd suggest that learning how to write code on Linux itself would be a far better use of time than trying to learn how to write code on a Windows machine pretending it's a Linux machine. Just my 2 cents, but if you've got the disk space, why not go for it? -- J.W.
 
Old 04-22-2004, 07:53 AM   #8
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When I start cygwin.bat It brings up a new DOS window and says

'bash' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

I've thought about partitioning my system, but all my linux friends say It's a bad idea because I'm on a lap top. I also don't have the slightest clue how to partition it, and I don't know how to back up my system.
 
Old 04-22-2004, 11:43 PM   #9
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there are other alternatives to cygwin...

Depending on what you want to acheive/learn/experience, you can play with bash in a windows environment. Typing "bash for windows" at google brought this up:
http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/bash/
There you'll find a precompiled-for-windows 2.03 bash.

If you are truly curious about GNU/Linux, a Knoppix live cd would be the thing to do. Getting and burning the iso are the biggest challenges. Ask a dsl/cable modem burner-having friend to make one if you don't have the resources. Read the docs to find out what it can and can't do. Basically, it can do everything, but most importantly, it can let you experience GNU/Linux fully without modifying your computer even a little bit, as long as you can boot from a cd rom drive. If you want to have a persistant configuration and home directory in Knoppix, it lets you do that. You just pick a size and location, and it puts a file on your harddrive to store the data. You can easily delete it if/when you are done, and its just like it was never there.

There are other live cd distributions of GNU/Linux, but Knoppix is the one I've used and heard about the most, so it will provide you with a larger knowledge base via the net if you have questions.

Welcome aboard!

"I got a GNU attitude!"
 
Old 04-22-2004, 11:59 PM   #10
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Oh, and by the way, if you want a true learning experience, go for Gentoo. :P
 
Old 04-23-2004, 01:08 AM   #11
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very helpful, I'll try that out.
so tired...must sleep.
thanks.
 
  


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