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Old 12-05-2009, 06:34 PM   #16
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Well, thanks LQ for helping. shpenat gave me an idea. He mentioned the BIOS. While I can't disable ethernet in the BIOS, there is, when I got to boot order, a network boot agent there that I remembered would say Atheros Ethernet Adapter when it was connected. Well, I went into the BIOS and this time it only said Network Boot:. It did not indicate the device. What a crappy computer. Somehow the Ethernet became d/c'ed or even possibly burned out. %^&# Acer. Pardon my french. Anyway I'm sending them an E-mail. Sorry for even putting this post up. I should've known it was the hardware.
 
Old 12-05-2009, 07:47 PM   #17
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Did You try unplugging the electrical power from the router and plugging it back in?
Sorry, but I can't help making the point that that sounds like http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-it-crowd .

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Old 12-05-2009, 08:24 PM   #18
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Bizarre. I've tried alot of solutions, especially but not limited what you guys at LQ provided me, and unfortunately...none worked. Now before I continue on to how this problem was solved, I would first like to say thanks to everyone for trying to help. You guys are the best. Secondly, I want to enforce the point that, out of frustration, as per instruction, due to life, and plenty of other reasons, that I've rebooted this computer **properly (I'll get to that in a second)** probably at least 6 times. Likely more.

Now someone brought up the BIOS. It reminded me. This computer lets me network boot, and the device is listed in the boot order for that reason. I checked it, and the device wasn't recognized.
Before this situation occurred, it would say: Network Boot: Atheros Boot Agent.
When I checked just 20 ~ min. ago it said: Network Boot:.
Nothing. So I then realized it must be the hardware. So I then proceeded to go Google. Still found no solution that was relevant or that I had already tried.
So, instead of Acer taking their time to answer my E-mail. I decided to crack it open myself. I failed. Miserably. See, I had got most of the screws out, but two remained. Despite my best efforts with multiple tools, these screws refused to come out. I didn't want to break something, so I gave up and reassembled.
Then out of childish arrogance, I hoped that that fixed it magically. I went into the BIOS...and it wasn't recognized. I discarded changes and exited, and it restarted my computer. Now understand, at this point, I was flaming mad, I was done for the night, and was going to give up. But of course the computer restarted, and when I realized that, I did not care to "shut the computer off properly" as it loaded the operating system. I simply press & held the power button "improperly shutting the computer down as Windows loaded (lol)." Kind of a childish act, but I was pissed.
I then turned my computer on because I remembered I wanted to do something with my theme on Linux. Well, GRUB loaded up as usual, and I booted into Linux. I just shoved my ethernet cord in there more out of frustration then thinking it was going to work.
Then, out of the corner of my eye. in the GNOME panel in the upper left, I saw "Auto eth0 connected."
WHAT????!!!!! YOU'RE KIDDING.
Remember, I had rebooted several times, Linux, Windows,and the BIOS......properly.
Properly. Ripping the computer of its power source abruptly fixed it.
Improperly.
So, now, I'm at a loss.
How could that happen?
 
Old 12-05-2009, 08:35 PM   #19
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Bizarre. I've tried alot of solutions, especially but not limited what you guys at LQ provided me, and unfortunately...none worked. Now before I continue on to how this problem was solved, I would first like to say thanks to everyone for trying to help. You guys are the best. Secondly, I want to enforce the point that, out of frustration, as per instruction, due to life, and plenty of other reasons, that I've rebooted this computer **properly (I'll get to that in a second)** probably at least 6 times. Likely more.

Now someone brought up the BIOS. It reminded me. This computer lets me network boot, and the device is listed in the boot order for that reason. I checked it, and the device wasn't recognized.
Before this situation occurred, it would say: Network Boot: Atheros Boot Agent.
When I checked just 20 ~ min. ago it said: Network Boot:.
Nothing. So I then realized it must be the hardware. So I then proceeded to go Google. Still found no solution that was relevant or that I had already tried.
So, instead of Acer taking their time to answer my E-mail. I decided to crack it open myself. I failed. Miserably. See, I had got most of the screws out, but two remained. Despite my best efforts with multiple tools, these screws refused to come out. I didn't want to break something, so I gave up and reassembled.
Then out of childish arrogance, I hoped that that fixed it magically. I went into the BIOS...and it wasn't recognized. I discarded changes and exited, and it restarted my computer. Now understand, at this point, I was flaming mad, I was done for the night, and was going to give up. But of course the computer restarted, and when I realized that, I did not care to "shut the computer off properly" as it loaded the operating system. I simply press & held the power button "improperly shutting the computer down as Windows loaded (lol)." Kind of a childish act, but I was pissed.
I then turned my computer on because I remembered I wanted to do something with my theme on Linux. Well, GRUB loaded up as usual, and I booted into Linux. I just shoved my ethernet cord in there more out of frustration then thinking it was going to work.
Then, out of the corner of my eye. in the GNOME panel in the upper left, I saw "Auto eth0 connected."
WHAT????!!!!! YOU'RE KIDDING.
Remember, I had rebooted several times, Linux, Windows,and the BIOS......properly.
Properly. Ripping the computer of its power source abruptly fixed it.
Improperly.
So, now, I'm at a loss.
How could that happen?
CMOS had bad data?
You seem frustrated.
 
Old 12-05-2009, 08:41 PM   #20
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I am, to a point.
I'm also pleased that it's working.
I'm only frustrated now because it was a 'solution' that I figured to be the last of all 'solutions.'
Thank you or your concern though. I 'thanked' you and lugoteehalt. It's all I can do.
I'm also very suprised that it that fixed it.
Also, sorry for the cluttered post. I was as equally excited as I was frustarted when writing that.
I still wonder exactly what caused the problem in the first place.
Thanks,

leopard
 
Old 12-05-2009, 09:40 PM   #21
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Congrats on fixing it.
 
Old 12-06-2009, 06:18 AM   #22
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Congratulation to repair.

I think you triggered one less known feature in BIOS. When computer is powered on, the BIOS performs POST to check the hardware. But of you issue soft reset or reset computer in the way the power to mainboard is not lost, BIOS will assume no HW change was made and skip a lot of tests in next POST. If by chance your card is not recognized at start, it will not be recognized until next hard reset.

I am not completely sure about notebooks, but this is the way it works on desktops. Notebooks and netbooks can even have this feature boosted.
 
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So I have an Acer Aspire One. A nice 3-week old, shiny but broke in, netbook. I HAD Windows XP and Ubuntu. At this point, Ethernet was working properly. So I decided to try Slackware, but realized that I did NOT like KDE as my GUI. So, back to good ol' Ubuntu. But now my Ethernet is not working on either OS.
So I figured that I should go thru a makeshift process of elimination.
Both OSes [winxp and ubuntu) support my Ethernet and mostly everything else out-of box. So no problem there. And also, Win XP and Linux ~ have always been on unaltered, seperate partitions. So, there goes that idea.
Making sure it wasn't a driver problem, I went ahead and installed and reinstalled the drivers on Linux and M$ just to make sure. Issue remained.
Then I checked my router. As far as I can TELL, it seems to be in good working order. I mean, I'm using it now (wirelessly).
Lastly, out of pure desperation, I looked at the wire and ports themselves. They look fine. Brand new. Ethernet cord is new and fully functional. Ethernet port on computer aesthetically well. Same on router. I mean, I have been using this setup for about three weeks no prob. Now it's come to a screeching halt. the ONLY thing I can reason is a failure of the physical hardware. Which is presumeably not likely. It's a very new computer.

I simply must be overlooking something. I need your guys' input. Im very frustrated. Thanks LQ.

EDIT: an lspci command shows the ethernet is recognized. if it helps, its an Attansic Atheros AR PCIE fast ethernet controller

EDIT: System Information for Windows also recognizes the ethernet.
"Property Value
FROZENRAIN (Acer Aspire one)
Network Adapter 1
Model Atheros AR8132 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
Description [12] Atheros AR8132 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
Status Disconnected"
What does it mean by disconnected?
firstly conglatuation to you!
But unfortunatly I had mostly the same problem with you ever had! My note book is ASUS F83vf,a 1-week old one. Surprisly the network adapter is the same with you,which is "Atheros AR8132 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller"!!!But not so good luck to me,I still can't resolve it!
additionally,sometimes when I get into Windows,the local ethernet can't to be seen! but the wireless ethernet is well! now I just can use wireless ethernet to surve on line. Would this issue about the driver? What is the problem about that? Can any guys give some advise to me?
 
Old 03-04-2010, 02:04 PM   #24
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Can any guys give some advise to me?
In the unlikely event you haven't read the whole thread, the problem was apparently solved by doing a hard reboot. Or shutting down and restarting the computer - to be sure unplug the bloody thing. I know this is unlikely to help but it's a faint possibility.
 
Old 03-05-2010, 12:32 PM   #25
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Thank you for your advice very much!But it seem's that just rebooting and setting the BIOS doesn't work for me.Today when I tune on my laptop,load in windows xp ,the network work find again.And when I switch to slackware,and use "lspci -v",the etho can be found,.But when I config the"/etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf"for using DHCP ,then restart"/etc/rc.d/rc/inet1",it cannot get link with work!After that I turn into windows,the etho disappear again!And I swith into linux,it also disappear again!That'crazy!!!I worry about that the laptop's hardware may crash!
Finally I look for help to my Chief Engineer,he give an advicement to me that the problem may concern about the slackware 13.0 kenerl.He help me down load an newer kernel,which version is 13.3,and a newer driver about the Atheros AR8132 car.Now I will try to update the kernel and driver tomorro.Wish good luck to me.Thank you again!I will appreciate for any other advicement...
 
Old 03-08-2010, 05:37 AM   #26
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In the unlikely event you haven't read the whole thread, the problem was apparently solved by doing a hard reboot. Or shutting down and restarting the computer - to be sure unplug the bloody thing. I know this is unlikely to help but it's a faint possibility.
Thanks for your help.The problem about nic have been solved throug compile a newer kernel.I use the v2.6.33 kernel.That's great ,for which i can exclusing the hardware problem.But also I find a new problem,the NVIDIA MCP78 HDMI hardware can not be found.It seems that sometimes a new computer doesn't seen to be good.Apparently,I think it is a driver problem.But I don't know excatly ways to solve it.Any guys know something about it?Appreciate it very much!
 
  


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